Open gasyoun opened 3 years ago
& is a symbolic representation of Latin 'et' ( English 'and'), similar to ॐ being a symbolic representation for Sanskrit 'om'.
And it is noticed that at many places in the data this '&' is used instead of 'and' (which is the way the book has). All such need to be brought back to the 'book form' of 'and'.
&c. is Latin 'et cetera', its English equivalent being 'and others'.
This and other such composite words in Latin (like i.e., e.g., ...) could be expanded with both Latin forms and English forms, the present work being for English knowing people, who may or may not know Latin.
It may be noted that all the (standard) present day English dictionaries give the expansion in English, for all such abbreviations.
at many places in the data this '&' is used instead of 'and' (which is the way the book has). All such need to be brought back to the 'book form' of 'and'.
Agree.
&c. is an abbreviation and not an obvious one
Had not realized it is not obvious. It's obviousness to me must be due to English as my home language.
We can add the <ab>&c.</ab>
markup sometime, and then the expansion
et cetera (Latin); X
Where X could be 'and others' as AB suggests, or one of several other possibilities -- Not sure which is best.
synonyms:
and so on ·
and so forth ·
and so on and so forth ·
and the rest ·
and/or the like ·
and/or suchlike ·
and/or more of the same ·
and/or similar things ·
et cetera et cetera ·
and others ·
among others ·
et al. ·
and what have you ·
and whatnot
Had not realized it is not obvious. It's obviousness to me must be due to English as my home language.
”The world is full of obvious things which nobody ever observes,” says Sherlock Holmes
We can add the
&c. markup sometime
Let it be now.
Not sure which is best.
Neither do I. So let's do what's clear.
I think and so on
is the better choice; and others
to go with et al.
(suits more than here).
@funderburkjim as an unmarked abbreviation it is too big compare to other abbreviations.
I agree that '&c.' is so common that it seems undesirable to add markup such as <ab>&c.</ab>
throughout mw.txt. I suppose the displays could add tooltips during html generation.
@Andhrabharati may find this suggestion insufficient. For instance if there are cases where the Cologne digitization has substituted '&c.' for the printed text 'and', then these differences would need to be changed in mw.txt.
No, the printed word 'and' is typed just as &, not as &c. (so far as I saw)
may find this suggestion insufficient
As you see he is fine. I'm not fine leaving as it is now. It is way too big now - because undermarked.
Probably the &c. could be dealt the same way as etc. is dealt. (both being the same)
&c.
is an abbreviation and not an obvious one. And not noted as such, @funderburkjimetcetera
?