Closed funderburkjim closed 2 years ago
The first MBH reference in pwg is <ls>MBH. 1, 2523.</ls>
under headword aMSa.
The relevant line of index file is 1 92 I 2513 2541 29
which says in volume 1, page 92 contains parvan 'I' (= 1) verses from 2513 to 2541 (29 verses).
And here is a snip of the relevant page:
And indeed the word aMSa occurs where expected. Hurray!
pwg reference <ls>MBH. 18, 157.</ls>
under headword agADa (अगाध).
The index shows 4 437 XVIII 138 166 29
, indicating that verse 157 of 18th parvan occurs on page 437 of volume 4.
And indeed we do find अगाध where expected:
We are ok to go in preparing the pdf pages and appropriate hosting page for the links.
From 28747 matches in 28741 lines for "<ls>MBH. [0-9]+, [0-9]+.</ls>" in buffer: pwg.txt
,
all of these should resolve into links when the necessary infrastructure is developed.
all of these should resolve into links when the necessary infrastructure is developed
Hurray! Hope Harivamsa follows and Ramayana is waiting in the line. That's amazing to see it come alive.
@Andhrabharati
You mention some mistakes in the mbh_calc scans (Reference)
The other two noted mistakes to be discussed in separate comments below.
* In vol.3, p.727 is badly cut at the left side. * confirmed. Do you have a replacement from some other source?
you may take this- https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.326584/page/n743/mode/1up
And you would get the missing pp. 498-9 as well from this archive book.
Hurray! Hope Harivamsa follows and Ramayana is waiting in the line. That's amazing to see it come alive.
@gasyoun
Now that a format is (kind of) known, you may put your 'new' Russian 'team' on Harivamsa and Ramayana indexing. [Let others also learn doing small works like these; of course, I had already done the Harivamsa after finishing the MBh indexing last month itself.]
From
28747 matches in 28741 lines for "<ls>MBH. [0-9]+, [0-9]+.</ls>" in buffer: pwg.txt
,
I have 1659 occurrences of <ls>MBH\.</ls> <[0-9]+,[0-9]+>
in the VN pages and 28825 in the Main pages, in my 'worked' file.
And there are ~7800 series of MBH. x1,y1. x2,y2. occurrences in the main text and ~100 in the VN pages that need to be separately linked.
The above reference notes: In vol.1, p.517 v.3100 onward is numbered as v.4000 onward.
.
The relevant portion of the index:
1 515 III 3030 3059 30
1 516 III 3060 3087 28
1 517 III 3088 3114 27 <<<< 3088 - 3099, 4000 - 4014
1 518 III 4015 4042 28
<s>upAkftya samAhftya</s> <ls>MBH. 3, 3098.</ls>
under kar
And consistent with page 517 3088 - 3099 (see previous image)
<s>mOrvIkftakiRO (BujO)</s> <ls>MBH. 3, 4008.</ls>
under kiRa.
And consistent with page 517, verses 4000 - 4014.
These examples suggest that the verse numbering in PWG (Vana Parva) is consistent with that in this mbh_calc_1.pdf. But see next for likely exception.
3 matches for "<ls>MBH. [3], 3[1-9][0-9]\{2\}.</ls>" in buffer: pwg.txt
These verses (in 3rd parvan) would be in the range 3100-3999. By the above, there should be none.
So these are a puzzle. One turns out to be a typo. The other two are unresolved.
Under ftu, p. 1-1053, 11 lines from bottom
<ls>MBH. 3, 3402.</ls> {#f\tuH svABAvikaH strIRAM rAtrayaH zoqaSa#}
Under garhaRIya, p. 2-0708, 8 lines from bottom
<ls>MBH. 3, 3888.</ls> {#garhaRIyAnyaTA Bavet#}
Under x, p. 6-0401
<ls>MBH. 3, 3995.</ls>
This is a typo: should be 9995.
Just like to tell that the excel file has one additional column with some details, as Remarks.
This column is not copied in the txt file.
[And I seem to have done few 'unwanted' corrections in the 'To' verse numbers (trying to 'correct' them properly); all such can be reverted to the 'book numbers' looking at the Remarks column, or might even be completely ignored (as they can be derived from the next page starting verse number).]
These verses (in 3rd parvan) would be in the range 3100-3999. By the above, there should be none. So these are a puzzle. One turns out to be a typo. The other two are unresolved.
Under ftu, p. 1-1053, 11 lines from bottom
<ls>MBH. 3, 3402.</ls> {#f\tuH svABAvikaH strIRAM rAtrayaH zoqaSa#}
This is a printo for 1,3402. And the quoted text does not refer to MBH, but to M. 3,46.
Under garhaRIya, p. 2-0708, 8 lines from bottom
<ls>MBH. 3, 3888.</ls> {#garhaRIyAnyaTA Bavet#}
This is a printo for 5,3888.
printo
print error?
I had already done the Harivamsa after finishing the MBh indexing last month itself.
So Ramayana left?
Just did a quick search, to see if there are any more in the range MBH. 3,3100-3999; and found that <L>44247
(pAtAla) has two such.
<ls>MBH.</ls>
<3,3547>. fgg. <3552>
And here are the pages, where some 'jumpimg' of numbering is seen and marked in my excel file-
1.517 III,3088-4014 27 31xx > 40xx : 900
1.520 III,4073-5002 30 41xx > 50xx : 900
1.524 III,5092-6021 30 51xx > 60xx : 900
1.527 III,6082-7011 30 61xx > 70xx : 900
1.530 III,7071-8099 29 71xx > 80xx : 900
1.561 III,8870-9999 30 89xx > 99xx : 1000
1.569 III,10086-11114 29 101xx > 110xx : 900
1.572 III,11071-10294 24 111xx > 102xx : -900
2.36 IV,958-986 29 94x > 95x :10
2.84 IV,2323-2360 28 233x > 234x : 10
2.124 V,990-1019 30 995 > 990 : -5
2.149 V,1578-1598 21 1579 >1578 : -1
2.307 V,6083-7012 30 61xx > 70xx : 900
2.480 VI,4278-4312 30 4286 > 4290 : 5
2.657 VII,3493-3527 30 3505 > 3510 :10
3.34 VIII,927-956 30 928 > 928 : -1
3.250 IX,2015-2049 29 2035 > 2040 : 5
3.374 ΧΙΙ,225-253 29 221 > 225 : 4
The data is slightly reformatted, for quick comprehension.
printo
print error?
I remember seeing this 'printo' used somewhere long back.
As it rhymed with the popular 'typo' (typographical error in typed documents), I've been using this 'printo' as a short form for 'print error' (for errors in printed books) since then.
Regarding the other 'jumps', I also made a list of 'verse gaps', based on your pdf remarks: I haven't tried to identify pwg instances of the other verse gaps except that at vol 1, p. 517
gaps in verses. From MBh.Calc.ed.index.Vols.1-4.xlsx
1 517 III 3088 3114 27
<<<< 3088 - 3099, 4000 - 4014 verse gap: 3100 - 3999
1 518 III 4015 4042 28
1 520 III 4073 4102 30
<<<< 4073 - 4099, 5000 - 5002 verse gap: 4100 - 4999
1 521 III 5003 5032 30
1 524 III 5092 5121 30
<<<< 5092 - 5099, 6000 - 6021 verse gap: 5100 - 5999
1 525 III 6022 6051 30
1 527 III 6082 6111 30
<<<< 6082 - 6099, 7000 - 7011 verse gap: 6100 - 6999
1 528 III 7012 7041 30
1 530 III 7071 7099 29
<<<< 7071 - 7099, --- verse gap: 7100 - 7999
1 531 III 8000 8029 30
1 561 III 8870 8899 30
<<<< 8870 - 8899 verse gap: 8900 - 9899
1 562 III 9900 9927 28
2 35 IV 919 947 29
<<<< 919 - 947, verse gap: 948 - 957
2 36 IV 958 986 29
2 83 IV 2293 2322 30
Correction: 2322 -> 2321
2 84 IV 2323 2360 28
Correction: 2323 -> 2322
233x > 234x : 10
Verse gap: 2330 - 2339
2 148 V 1556 1578 23
2 149 V 1578 1598 21
1579 >1578 : -1
Page 148 ends with 1575 and 3 more verses, thus 1575-1578,
Page 149 begins with 2 verses then 1580, thus 1578-1580.
So there is confusion over verse 1578.
2 307 V 6083 7012 30
61xx > 70xx : 900
<<<< 6083 - 6099, 7000 - 7012 verse gap: 6100 - 6999
2 480 VI 4278 4312 30
4286 > 4290 : 5
<<<< 4278 - 4285, 4290 - 4312. verse gap: 4286 - 4289
2 657 VII 3493 3527 30
(+ 3493 30) = 3523
3505 > 3510 :10
<<<< 3493 - 3504, 3510 - 3527 verse gap: 3505 - 3509
3 250 IX 2015 2049 29
2035 > 2040 : 5
<<<< 2015 - 2034, 2040 - 2049. verse gap 2035-2039
Added 3.498, 3.499 from archive.org version. Replaced 3.727 from archive.org version.
Also corrected a file-name error in pdf page renaming.
mv pdfpages/mbhcalc_3.502.pdf pdfpages/mbhcalc_3.500.pdf
. . .
mv pdfpages/mbhcalc_3.861.pdf pdfpages/mbhcalc_3.859.pdf
Example: https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/pwg/guru
And clicking on the link:
glad to see this.
you may link the pwk citations also, alongwith mw.
The url form of the display is https://sanskrit-lexicon-scans.github.io/mbhcalc/?p.v
where
This displays the pdf of the page containing the given verse for the given parvan.
All the 3000+ page pdfs are in the repository https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon-scans/mbhcalc. The display is generated by the web page index.html.
There are at least some MW citations of the form <ls>MBh. q,v</ls>
. (One such is under 'guru')
Where 'q' is a roman numeral for the parvan.
Such MW citations also have active links in the displays.
AFAIK, the PWK MBH citations are to the BOMBAY edition of Mahabharata. They have the form 'MBH. x,y,z' (Three numbers). These are NOT resolved as links to Calcutta edition.
Not sure if there other PWK citations to Calcutta edition of MBH.
<ls>Hariv. v</ls>
.I'll open other issues for the 2nd and 3rd items. Hope @gasyoun crew will be able to help with the verse-page index for Harivamsa. Probably best for me to do the 3rd item.
reality check.
The first MBH reference in pwg is
<ls>MBH. 1, 2523.</ls>
under headword aMSa. The relevant line of index file is1 92 I 2513 2541 29
which says in volume 1, page 92 contains parvan 'I' (= 1) verses from 2513 to 2541 (29 verses).
Hello! Thank you, but could you please explain how the number of the parvan is established?
1 Ādiparva
2 Sabhāparva
3 Vanaparva
4 Virāṭparva
5 Udyogaparva
6 Bhīṣmaparva
7 Droṇaparva
8 Karṇaparva
9 Śalyaparva
10 Sauptikaparva
11 Strīparva
12 Śāntiparva
13 Anuśāsanaparva
14 Āśvamedhikaparva
15 Āśramavāsikamparva
16 Mausalaparva
17 Mahāprasthānikaparva
18 Svargārohanikaparva
We are using a 4-volume pdf for this Calcutta edition. The parvan names and numbers can be seen on title page.
Note that in the 4th volume, there is a 19th parvan for Harivansha.
Note that this numbering is consistent with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata.
@KateRusse Do these comments answer your question?
parvan-number correspondence
1 Ādiparva 2 Sabhāparva 3 Vanaparva 4 Virāṭparva 5 Udyogaparva 6 Bhīṣmaparva 7 Droṇaparva 8 Karṇaparva 9 Śalyaparva 10 Sauptikaparva 11 Strīparva 12 Śāntiparva 13 Anuśāsanaparva 14 Āśvamedhikaparva 15 Āśramavāsikamparva 16 Mausalaparva 17 Mahāprasthānikaparva 18 Svargārohanikaparva
We are using a 4-volume pdf for this Calcutta edition. The parvan names and numbers can be seen on title page.
* [volume 1](https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon-scans/mbhcalc/blob/main/pdfpages/mbhcalc_1.000a.pdf) ([alternate link to volume 1 titlepage](https://sanskrit-lexicon-scans.github.io/mbhcalc/pdfpages/mbhcalc_1.000a.pdf)) * [volume 2](https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon-scans/mbhcalc/blob/main/pdfpages/mbhcalc_2.000a.pdf) * [volume 3](https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon-scans/mbhcalc/blob/main/pdfpages/mbhcalc_3.000a.pdf) * [volume 4](https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon-scans/mbhcalc/blob/main/pdfpages/mbhcalc_4.000a.pdf)
Note that in the 4th volume, there is a 19th parvan for Harivansha.
Note that this numbering is consistent with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata.
@KateRusse Do these comments answer your question?
Yes, thank you very much!
And here are the pages, where some 'jumpimg' of numbering is seen and marked in my excel file-
In the original printed book?
I remember seeing this 'printo' used somewhere long back.
Must be Indian English ))
Example: https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/pwg/guru
Hurray, the Mahabharata links are working! @drdhaval2785 what about the highlighter script that show us the line we actually search for?
may link the pwk citations also, alongwith mw.
Yes, hope we are heading there.
AFAIK, the PWK MBH citations are to the BOMBAY edition of Mahabharata.
@Andhrabharati ?
I would propose we get rid of the ? with an Apache rewrite?
crew will be able to help with the verse-page index for Harivamsa
Sure, let @KateRusse take an eye on it. Do you understand what is to be done?
get rid of the ? with an Apache rewrite?
This could be done on the Cologne server, but the current hosting on Github does not support Apache rewrites.
let @KateRusse take an eye on it.
Great! I'll explain what to do in next issue (#49).
And here are the pages, where some 'jumpimg' of numbering is seen and marked in my excel file-
In the original printed book?
Yes, and it was Hermann Jacobi who has first commented on the point way back in 1903; explaining the total verse number difference in the 3rd parva wrt other editions, counting to over 5000.
The same (count difference) has also been mentioned by the BORI editor in the critical edition.
I remember seeing this 'printo' used somewhere long back.
Must be Indian English ))
could be, as I started looking at "foreign" books only recently.
And this is not listed anywhere 'publicly'.
Example: https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/pwg/guru
Hurray, the Mahabharata links are working! @drdhaval2785 what about the highlighter script that show us the line we actually search for?
That script works only on the digital texts, not on images.
may link the pwk citations also, alongwith mw.
Yes, hope we are heading there.
There are only a few in pwk, as @funderburkjim correctly noticed. My point was to link them in the same spree.
AFAIK, the PWK MBH citations are to the BOMBAY edition of Mahabharata.
@Andhrabharati ?
Nothing to differ; the pwk biblio entry (vol. 1) itself clearly mentions it. [¤MBh. = ¤Mahābhārata, citirt nach Parvan, Adhyāya und Śloka der Bomb. Ausg. Die ältere Calcuttaer Ausg. mit zwei Zahlen wird nur dann angeführt, wenn sie eine abweichende Lesart bietet.]
And once the Bomb. ed. got published, attention was shifted to it, as it contained a short (?) commentary as well by Nilakantha.
It won't be out of context to note that MW has heavily picked up all his citations from pwg and hence it has majority of Calc. ed. MBh.
There are only a few in pwk,
@Andhrabharati how do we recognize these? Would you give an example where PWK references the Calcutta edition?
PW(K) citations
AFAIK, the PWK MBH citations are to the BOMBAY edition of Mahabharata. They have the form 'MBH. x,y,z' (Three numbers). These are NOT resolved as links to Calcutta edition.
Not sure if there other PWK citations to Calcutta edition of MBH.
Even you yourself had the clue, @funderburkjim !
There are 346 places without a dot ending x,y
and 137 places with a dot ending x,y.
, as against 198 of x,y,z
and 2327 of x,y,z.
[pl. look at the pw_AB_08.txt file made by you from my file, in November.]
The work mentioned in a previous comment .
The cleanup work done in mwg_ls2/mbh directory.
Before the work, there were found 29000+ MBH verses with active links and 8700+ malformed MBH references. After the changes, there are now found 55000+ verses with active links, and 27 known malformed links (these are listed in the readme). About 9000 lines of pwg.txt were changed (less than 1% of the current lines).
The table of 'NORMAL' link types in the readme file shows what are considered as 'normal' ls references to MBH.
Next related improvements to do:
great; so this largest cited MBh. in PWG can now be taken as fully linked.
and let me see what those 27 malformed ones are, mentioned to be in the readme.
Here is the file to check and act on the 27 cases- PWG MBh. abnormal cases.txt
And probably some of these could be linked to the resp. pages of the particular volumes, even if they are not pointing to any text verses. If decided to do so and want my help, they (page numbers) could be provided in no time.
not pointing to any text verses
Yes, they should be linked as well.
they (page numbers) could be provided in no time.
I ask, not sure if that's enough.
Need Jim's option, not yours @gasyoun !
As noted above, the links to Calcutta edition of Mahabharata in PWK are identify as, for example
<ls>MBH. 6,352.</ls>
, and are already handled properly:
cf. https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/pw/aDivAjyakulAdya
There are roughly 500 such references. By contrast there are 2500+ references to Bombay edition
e.g. <ls>MBH. 14,38,2.</ls>>
https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/pw/akArpaRya/
Thus nothing more to do in that regard.
PWG.MBh.abnormal.cases.txt
Only 1 of 27 is identified as 'linkable'.
<ls>MBH. Bd. III, S. 818, Z. 5. u. 4, v. u.</ls>
under headword aTarvaSiras is identfied as '3, 12864'
An attempted 'obvious' change (e.g. <ls>MBH.</ls> <ls n="MBH. 3, 12864">Bd. III, S. 818, Z. 5. u. 4, v. u.</ls>
was not properly converted to a link in the display program.
Current opinion: Not worth the trouble to modify the display program to handle this isolated case.
Remains to deal with Calcutta edition Hariv. links in PWG, discussed in #49
PWG.MBh.abnormal.cases.txt
Only 1 of 27 is identified as 'linkable'.
<ls>MBH. Bd. III, S. 818, Z. 5. u. 4, v. u.</ls>
under headword aTarvaSiras is identfied as '3, 12864'An attempted 'obvious' change (e.g.
<ls>MBH.</ls> <ls n="MBH. 3, 12864">Bd. III, S. 818, Z. 5. u. 4, v. u.</ls>
was not properly converted to a link in the display program.Current opinion: Not worth the trouble to modify the display program to handle this isolated case.
@funderburkjim
Sorry for coming back to a closed issue and posting.
Pl. see my observation as posted at https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/PWG/issues/49#issuecomment-1031585162
Just spent few minutes and found ~1500 places where the [a-z].</ls>
is at the end, the MBh. link is NOT active.
So I would venture saying that you need to look at these and do some jugglery, instead of leaving as isolated case(s). [The above abnormal case is part of this lot]
And here is the list I got, with a quick regex search- PWG missing MBh links.txt
@Andhrabharati Yes, I've noticed similar MBH misses while working with HARIV. Will focus on missing MBH in a separate issue.
The aim here is to prepare links to pdf pages for the MBH literary source references in pwg dictionary.
We hope to make use of material developed by @Andhrabharati as described here.
The material includes
From these, for a given reference in pwg, we should be able to provide a link to a pdf of the MBH page.