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Create a page for Scala IDEs #1657

Open makingthematrix opened 3 months ago

makingthematrix commented 3 months ago

There is a page for libraries and tools (https://www.scala-lang.org/community/index.html#community-libraries-and-tools) and I know that an IDE is technically a tool, but:

  1. No IDE is mentioned there
  2. IDEs are central to the software development so much that I believe they deserve a separate page

Basically, we have two main Scala IDEs: IntelliJ Scala Plugin, and VS Code with Metals. There are others and I think it would be nice to mention them as well, but we can start with these two. Creating a separate page for them, and linking it from the main page, would add credibility in the eyes of newcomers: you consider learning a new programming language, you go to its website, and you see that two main IDEs in the programming world support that language. Cool. You already feel more confident that you made a good choice.

The page could be simple, for start. Just the titles, links to the landing pages of both IntelliJ Scala Plugin and VS Code Metals, screenshots, and descriptions written in collaboration with both teams.

Besides, right now, if you go to Google Search and ask for "Scala IDE", the first result you get will be "Scala IDE for Eclipse" which is discontinued for many years. This is a bad look. IntelliJ Scala Plugin already positions itself as "Scala IDE" on its landing page in order to go higher on the Google list. An external link to our landing page from scala-lang.org would help a lot.

PS. I already worked on the "Scala on Android" article, so I can create the page myself if I get a green light.

bishabosha commented 3 months ago

Thank you for the suggestion, this would be a great addition. Particularly also would be good to revamp the Getting Started guide with better information on IDE

MateuszKubuszok commented 3 months ago

IMHE (mostly with StackOverflow) it would be nice to address 2 things:

These might have lower priority than just initial page with "getting started" but it might be valuable to have them at some point to prevent FUD.

tgodzik commented 1 month ago

Late to the party but:

there are still people stuck on old versions of Scala - not supported by Metals -

I could try to back publish versions for some older Scala versions, Do you know which ones people might be stuck on?

MateuszKubuszok commented 1 month ago

I'd have to look up the questions on StackOverflow, but apparently there are people stuck maintaining old Spark versions on 2.9/2.10 (maybe a few even earlier). I saw some mention about people who managed to finally migrate on Scala 2.11. I imagine such teams are virtually without an IDE making any attempt to migrate even harder.

tgodzik commented 1 month ago

Och, I tried publish for older, but we are missing a bunch of things there :/

SethTisue commented 4 weeks ago

I'm in favor. Gonna go look at the PR now.

SethTisue commented 4 weeks ago

there are still people stuck on old versions of Scala

As a matter of policy, we don't document anything older than 2.12 on the main site. Having information about three versions (2.12, 2.13, and 3) is already a lot.

At most, we could include a short link to information hosted elsewhere.