Links return 404

[jcubic]

I only checked few but they return 404. This page with Macros.

https://github.com/schemedoc/bibliography/blob/master/page3.md

[soegaard]

That's weird, I can't find the repo where the documents were supposed to be. The link

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scheme-live/library.readscheme.org/master/

suggests that scheme-live has a repo called library.readscheme.org.

[jcubic]

Hmm, the repostiory scheme-live/library.readscheme.org redirects to this repo.

[lassik]

I don't think I was ever involved with that repo, and I don't remember what happened to it. If memory serves, @amirouche made it by salvaging what was left of the old readscheme.org. (That site was already long gone when I started to explore Scheme.)

• There are bound to be lots of dead links in the bibliography.

• I have systematically annotated it as S-expressions, finding the PDFs and storing their hashes in the S-expressions.

• I have a big stash of Scheme PDFs on my computer. I can send it to whoever wants it. We should find a long-term home for them on a public website. Perhaps outside Scheme.org, to safeguard against any copyright problems?

[lassik]

(NB: ACM should become "open access" this year. That will remove the biggest roadblock to accessing Scheme papers.)

[lassik]

Also note https://github.com/schemeorg-community/schemeworkshop-papers which is easy to clone.

[soegaard]

According to an old thread on Reddit, the original repo had a size of 1.5Gb. Without doubt an archive of the pdf-files.

Unless the solution requires more work than resurrecting an old branch or a deleted release, then I think waiting till ACM becomes open access is the right choice.

[jcubic]

Maybe Internet Archive. But I'm not sure about The copyright.

[soegaard]

Also note https://github.com/schemeorg-community/schemeworkshop-papers which is easy to clone.

Thanks for the link. I didn't know about it.

Apart from the older papers, a good chunk must have been presented at the Scheme workshops.

[lassik]

I found a clone of a 1.5G readscheme repo from @amirouche on my computer. That must be the one.

[soegaard]

FWIW it is possible to download individual files from Internet Archive:

https://help.archive.org/help/how-to-download-files/

According to the policy below, I think the Internet Archive would be interested:

https://help.archive.org/help/internet-archive-collection-development-policy/

3. Selection Criteria Materials eligible for inclusion in the Internet Archive’s collections should meet the following criteria:

a) Research Interest: The material should be of interest and value to researchers, historians, scholars, people with print disabilities, and the general public.

[lassik]

I have used the Wayback Machine extensively to rescue old Scheme stuff.

For non-trivial jobs, this awesome third-party tool is mandatory: https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader. Especially the --all-timestamps option.

[lassik]

We could well send the papers there, if they accept them. The same copyright ambiguities apply as with other hosting options.

[lassik]

Here's everything I have: http://schemizdat.scheme.fi/

I added a login to thwart the simplest bots. It's scheme/scheme.

Feel free to wget --mirror this if you like. It has --user and --password flags.

[amirouche]

That might be a very old copy of the backup. Thanks for taking care of it.

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