Open sdhull opened 8 years ago
So for state prioritization, it'd be nice to find a query-able source for state polls, so we could have live-updating state prioritization based on recent polls (without having to manually update poll data in the app)
So this complicates the state prioritization
item above (as brought up by irl):
http://www.jill2016.com/ballot_access
http://sourceplanet.net/politics/bernie-sanders-write-in-states-what-you-need-to-know/
Apparently write-in candidates are not allowed in many states, and in some states you can't write-in someone who lost the primary race in that state ("Sore Loser" laws).
Some scattered thoughts:
You might also suggest some strategies for helping to ensure vote swapping compliance.
For instance, if you exchange FaceBook information with your mate, and then both publicly declare your intention to vote swap, you can see how their friends react to this (from "When did you start supporting Stein instead of Trump" to "Right on! I am so glad you found a way not to contribute to Nader effect"). The public declaration also puts social pressure on both parties to follow through.
I am sure we could think of more. Also worth reminding people that taking a picture of their vote is illegal, for good reasons.
@StevenGubkin I like the idea around encouraging people to declare their support on FB, with a link back to the site, of course. 😉
Are you absolutely certain that photographing your vote is illegal? Not very enforceable as long as it's kept relatively private, right?
@sdhull Apparently the legality varies from state to state.
Here is a state by state guide: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/photo-polling-place_n_6095746.html
It is illegal for a good reason though. Imagine if your employer said "Vote republican and take a picture or you will be fired from your job". Secret voting eliminates this kind of thing.
Some other countries let you vote as many times as you like, and only the last vote counts. This prevents these sort of attacks, because even if you are being compelled to vote a certain way once you can go back and change your vote secretly later.
Hey - I think this is a great idea, and I'd love to get involved with trying to grow this. I agree with Steven Gubkin that Facebook is a super valuable resource for you - it's a good way to spread the word and helps with trust issues.
In fact, I think that a major focus of MMC should be to encourage people to independently arrange swaps with their FB friends. (I think that this is a better idea than, for example, encouraging everybody to sign up for MMC and then trying to pair friends together, because it works independently of how many people sign up.) Since the market for votes is asymmetric (many more Hillary supporters in non-swing states than Stein supporters in swing states), it would be most effective for third party swing-state voters to reach out to friends - but of course Facebook statuses by anyone are great and raise awareness. I imagine that this sort of status would look something like: "I want to support the Green party, and don't really like either of the major candidates, but I really don't want Trump to get elected. Since I live in a swing state, I'd like to swap my PA Stein vote for a Clinton vote in a non-swing state. Message me if you or a friend would be interested! [link to article or FAQ page from MMC which explains more about the rationale/procedure for vote swapping]"
I think it would also be worthwhile to contact/learn from similar organizations. Votepair (http://oxhouse.org/politics/votepair.org/) did this in 2004; R4C16 (the organization featured in this NYT opinion piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/opinion/anti-trump-republicans-dont-waste-your-vote-trade-it.html?smid=pl-share) appears to be doing something similar now. Balanced Rebellion does something fairly different but ran a viral-ish targeted Facebook ad campaign - this could be an effective tactic for you.
A couple nit-picky things about your FAQ page, which I bring up since I'd like something like this page to be more front-and-center if you end up pushing for independent pairing:
And one final point: what is a swing state and what isn't? I think pretty much the only thing that matters in determining the answer is the 538 voter power index (it's on the right; you have to scroll down a bit): http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo. In particular, by this metric Texas is not a swing state, although R4C16 apparently believes it is.
@cschlom good suggestions, I'll update the FAQ as you suggest.
As for what is a swing state and what is not -- I thought it would be easier to figure out. I spent much of Saturday examining data & different news outlets' lists of swing states. A core group of states was always present, but the edges of the groups were a bit different depending on which news outlet you're looking at.
I decided to go with data from Princeton. See my slightly modified version of their csv here. Then you can check out my (arguably somewhat arbitrary) definition of State#swing_state?
in the State class. The Princeton data has columns win probability adding 2% to Democratic nominee
and win probability adding 2% to Republican nominee
which I renamed to optimistic_win_p
and pessimistic_win_p
(respectively). Idea is that if these vary significantly (arbitrary cutoff of 10), then it's a swing state. I'm pretty satisfied with the resulting list.
Honestly we don't have nearly enough registrations currently to affect the election so I'm not too worried about really nailing this stuff. I'm doing this in my spare time and frankly there aren't enough hours in the day.
Kind of exciting times for Make Mine Count - I've been tracking your Facebook shares via http://graph.facebook.com/https://www.makeminecount.org and since last night's debate you've gone from 6000 to 7000 shares. Please let me know if I can help with the growth process in any way.
Wow that's cool @cschlom I didn't realize it was possible to track shares across FB that way! Thanks!
If you have any contacts in press, I think a mainstream press hit would really do the trick. Otherwise, I think just resharing every once in awhile is probably a good idea. People need to see something a few times before they go check it out or decide to sign up sometimes. It's like getting used to water in a cool pool or something 😉
I think you guys should run Facebook ads, targeted (for example) at people in swing states who like Bernie Sanders's page. Balanced Rebellion used a viral FB ad (they also encourage visitors to their website to donate in order to buy more ad space) to get 700K FB shares (MMC is at 11K and it's tapered off).
I'd be happy to put up some $$ for ads and/or to handle the whole operation. I don't think we need anything flashy, just something informative and a link - maybe like http://imgur.com/a/NOPSi. Let me know if this would be of interest!
http://imgur.com/a/NOPSi -- this is brilliant. I think it'd be fantastic if you wanted to spearhead this. Let me know if you need me to set up a FB pixel, I've done it a couple other times for other people who've run FB ads. The other ads have finished though, so I can safely replace the current pixel with yours.
Hmm were these other ads for Make Mine Count? If so, it might be useful for me to have some info about them (who was targeted, how many ads, effectiveness).
High level features to be broken out & tackled individually:
name
field to usersFeatures for later iterations:
"Right on! You won't be indirectly helping Drumpf!"
"Right on! You're helping to defeat Drumpf!"
"You've been matched with Bob! You will vote for so-and-so, and they will vote for such-and-such"
with a call to action to share on social media.