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Rulebook for the Lords & Lads stump variant
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No defined penalty for calling Uprising then hitting your own nail on the first flip #27

Open seanKenkeremath opened 1 year ago

seanKenkeremath commented 1 year ago

See #25

Currently, a Lad can call Uprising, hit the Uprising nail once, and then use the remaining flips on anything including their own nail or other valid targets. That's totally legal (for now). However, it would not be legal to hit your own nail as the first hit. The existing penalties cover all other cases (hitting a center nail or another Lads nail).

I'd like to add a penalty for that edge case, or maybe just say that it has the same penalties as hitting a center nail illegally or something similar

mrketchup commented 1 year ago

Perhaps in this case, the call to uprising is nullified. Rallies won't be consumed, and the player legally only gets as many strikes as flips onto their own nail. All hits on other nails or beyond their flip count will fall under existing penalty rules.

austenlux commented 1 year ago

@mrketchup sounds like you're saying that the turn essentially just becomes a normal non-uprising turn, with no other negative consequences. I feel like there should be an actual punishment though. Otherwise that creates the scenario where anyone can just call "Uprising" before their turn, and then simply not do the uprising and have nothing happen, they just take a normal turn and pretend like they never said "Uprising".

I feel like if you announce to all of your fellow Lads that you are going to perform an uprising, and then you just don't, there would be consequences.

I'd say we either make it the same as A Lad illegally strikes an Uprising nail or alternatively, I kinda like the idea of having multiple options of consequences like the other penalties do, and having all of the Lad's collectively vote on how they want to punish the Lad who failed uprising.