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[BUG-40875] Bring back weekly rolling maintenance for the grid #12489

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sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

How would you like the feature to work?

Back in the days, SL had regular rolling restarts every week. But then, it has began to become less frequent: every 2-3 weeks in average for main channel. Quite often, rolling restarts are even cancelled or not performed, despite they appear planned in the grid status page. They seem to occur only when it comes to new server updates deploy, which is a pity. However, without regular restarts, any region's performance and stability runs downhill. No 'but', no 'if', that's a fact. And simply a matter of time.

During the summer 2016, we have even been left with 6 weeks without a maintenance! As a result, the grid can become a true wreck for long days or weeks. The problem has actually gone even more acute since the prim limit was increased on regions. So please roll back to weekly restarts!

Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?

As an active member of the sailing community, I have witnessed numerous races or cruises that turned into a bloody mess due to the grid poor state and performance. As I'm writing this, around 50% of boat races I have followed had to be cancelled because nobody (or almost) survived them. The turning point has been the day since the region prim limit has been increased. Coincidence? I think not!

The problem is especially severe in Blake Sea and the surroundings, which is a hig traffic area where vehicle use is the main activity. However, boats, planes and even road vehicles need a grid in proper condition to be enjoyable. Instead of this, we more and more often meet region that are randomly misconnected to nearby ones and/ or running bad. As a result: lag, crashes, sim crossing / teleport failures, etc. As a further result: people getting fed up and quitting, not to mention that general feeling that SL is slowly dying...

It's simply not conceivable for residents to flood customer support with tickets for each region concerned and each time it happens (that is: more and more often). It's simply a waste of time and a joy killer. We are all in SL to have fun, not to spend our time filling in forms!

I strongly believe that a more frequent maintenance could solve that problem and avoid that defective regions are left to decay for too long. Therefore, I hereby request that the grid is restarted every week. If not the whole grid, at least the SL server main channel regions, where most of the transportation activity takes place.

Original Jira Fields | Field | Value | | ------------- | ------------- | | Issue | BUG-40875 | | Summary | Bring back weekly rolling maintenance for the grid | | Type | New Feature Request | | Priority | Unset | | Status | Been Triaged | | Resolution | Triaged | | Reporter | indragray (indragray) | | Created at | 2016-11-11T20:02:29Z | | Updated at | 2016-11-28T06:35:09Z | ``` { 'Business Unit': ['Platform'], 'Date of First Response': '2016-11-11T16:17:13.255-0600', 'How would you like the feature to work?': 'Back in the days, SL had regular rolling restarts every week. But then, it has began to become less frequent: every 2-3 weeks in average for main channel. Quite often, rolling restarts are even cancelled or not performed, despite they appear planned in the grid status page. They seem to occur only when it comes to new server updates deploy, which is a pity.\r\nDuring the summer 2016, we have even been left with 6 weeks without a maintenance! \r\nAs a result, the grid can become a true wreck for long days or weeks. The problem has actually gone even more acute since the prim limit was increased on regions.\r\nSo please roll back to weekly restarts!', 'ReOpened Count': 0.0, 'Severity': 'Unset', 'Target Viewer Version': 'viewer-development', 'Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?': "As an active member of the sailing community, I have witnessed numerous races or cruises that turned into a bloody mess due to the grid poor state and performance. As I'm writing this, more than 50% of boat races had to be cancelled because nobody (or almost) survived them.\r\nThe turning point has been the day since the region prim limit has been increased. Coincidence? I think not!\r\n\r\nThe problem is especially severe in Blake Sea and the surroundings, which is a hig traffic area where vehicle use is the main activity. However, boats, planes and even road vehicles need a grid in proper condition to be enjoyable.\r\nInstead of this, we more and more often meet region that are randomly misconnected to nearby ones and/ or running bad. As a result: lag, crashes, sim crossing / teleport failures, etc. As a further result: people getting fed up and quitting, not to mention that general feeling that SL is slowly dying...\r\n\r\nIt's simply not conceivable for residents to flood customer support with tickets for each region concerned and each time it happens (that is: more and more often). It's simply a waste of time and a joy killer. We are all in SL to have fun, not to spend our time filling in forms!\r\n\r\nI strongly believe that a more frequent maintenance could solve that problem and avoid that defective regions are left to decay for too long. Therefore, I hereby request that the grid is restarted every week. \r\nIf not the whole grid, at least the SL server main channel regions, where most of the transportation activity takes place.", } ```
sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Whirly Fizzle commented at 2016-11-11T22:17:13Z

I don't agree that the problem started when mainland got the increased prim capacity. Regions performing poorly when they have not been restarted for several weeks has been an ongoing issue.

Apart from the more frequent region crossing on vehicles problems mentioned above when regions have not been rolled for over a week, the following problems occur frequently on regions that haven't been restarted for a while and the only way to fix all of these issues is to restart the region:

However, regions coming back online after the rolling restarts often come back online with caps fail and the region is totally broken until it is restarted again. So more frequent rolls when not needed will increase this problem.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Lampoon Destiny commented at 2016-11-12T19:44:48Z

Sailing in the Blake Sea has become almost impossible. 1.000s of sailors are being affected by the poor performance of sims in this area. LL, please remedy this situation.

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Bridget Beresford commented at 2016-11-12T19:53:35Z

Whatever the reason for the failure of sims and the extremely poor conditions and maintenance of sl and in particular the Blake and surrounding waters - something HAS to be done. We are losing racers and sailors because the conditions don't even allow us to reach the first mark in races!!!![ This has been going on for a very long time and it's is at the point that we must all support the move to request that LL takes us very seriously. Please don't start arguing about what exactly is the cause - but rather - support this Jira to bring it to LL attention - not in dribs and drabs and a few tickets - but well supported by all of you - sailors, fliers, and everyone else on the grid]( This has been going on for a very long time and it's is at the point that we must all support the move to request that LL takes us very seriously. Please don't start arguing about what exactly is the cause - but rather - support this Jira to bring it to LL attention - not in dribs and drabs and a few tickets - but well supported by all of you - sailors, fliers, and everyone else on the grid)![ In addition - whatever has gone on over the last week has increased the disgusting conditions in the Blake. That is FACT]( In addition - whatever has gone on over the last week has increased the disgusting conditions in the Blake. That is FACT)

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Therrainia commented at 2016-11-12T23:06:03Z

I've run into more and more seemingly connected regions, since as early as January, were you arrive on a region, and then you can't get back of, as if the way onto the region has been cut, and it's just out in black space, when one logs off from them, they are not able to log back in unless they log back in to a hub region. I'm seeing signs of this in several regions in the Blake. As an estate owner, I had scheduled region restarts DAILY, and was done with a scripted alt. When I had races within the estate, I was sure to restart the course regions 45minutes before a race.

So I don't think it's too much to ask LL to do weekly rolling restarts, its automatic. If it takes one more staffer to monitor it, Linden Labs regional tier costs are high enough, that I'm pretty sure they can afford an intern from SF State, or even a part time person from the avatar pool to monitor it. It's something that takes a few minutes to increase the quality of the system thousands of people use. Sounds like a small price, much smaller than losing users.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Analyse Dean commented at 2016-11-12T23:17:34Z

Please, bring back rolling restarts for healthy servers!

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Vickie Maidstone commented at 2016-11-12T23:17:38Z

As an RD as well I have seen countless times races crashing or lagging to the point they can NOT complete a race due to the issues we been experiencing. A weekly restart of the channel would help to smooth out the issues so all can enjoy sailing,flying, what ever it takes to make the Blake Sea an enjoyable experience for all.

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Amanda Dallin commented at 2016-11-12T23:18:01Z

This issue is affecting waters in private estates too. They can mitigate it to a degree by restarting all the time but that shouldn't be necessary.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

moonglownight commented at 2016-11-12T23:20:05Z

This is needed.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

BillEwen commented at 2016-11-12T23:24:33Z

Yes.. Blake sea is seeing more sinkings than the titanic. It needs to be fixed.

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Hank Sopwith commented at 2016-11-12T23:28:40Z

I have personally experienced crashing and severe lag at times when sailing the Blake Sea area. This causes a horrible disruption where I may end up underwater with the boat sailing off in a random direction. I did nothing to cause this crash - sailing with minimal scripts and prims on boat and avi. Only recovery is to logoff, log back on, and try to find where the boat went... to say nothing of really messing up participation in an enjoyable sailing activity. If Rolling Restarts would reduce or eliminate these crashes, I too, beg that they be reinstated. Thank you.

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Dragon Wobbit commented at 2016-11-12T23:37:17Z

There isn't a day that goes by where I don't lose a boat or heli crossing over a sim in the Blake and surrounding areas. There really is no joy to be found in having to relog because you can't move, your boat crashes into some innocent island or the lag means you crash into a another boat and you can't do anything about it. Please, bring back stability to the Blake.

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Gigan Seraph commented at 2016-11-12T23:40:17Z

Major MMOs like WoW go down for maintenance weekly, if not daily. Having a 15-30m period where everything is cycled would be useful.

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Rockdawg Seelowe commented at 2016-11-12T23:46:06Z

Agrees completely many sims even north of Blake Sea are nearly impossible to pass through. I have only been able to navigate to Blake Sea twice at a snails pace with ending results of losing yacht at Blake near spyglass. I have lost a yacht adrift in Peddler. Sailing has become impossible to enjoy!! Please return rolling restarts ....

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Chill278expert commented at 2016-11-12T23:50:07Z

Yes agree, we are crashing constantly, regatta racing has virtually come to a stop.

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Mark414 commented at 2016-11-12T23:53:13Z

lots crashes or flying boats

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Allie Tomsen commented at 2016-11-13T00:01:15Z

For one of the major attractions (if not THE major attraction) in Second Life this is intolerable. We lose ships and sailors; LL loses paying customers.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

petrarosen commented at 2016-11-13T00:08:44Z

Please bring back the weekly restarts for the reasons mentioned above.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

SteveLL commented at 2016-11-13T00:23:25Z

As a member of the sailing community and a Race Director I either host or participate in races on a daily basis. The conditions have deteriorated to the point in the Blake Sea that people either aren’t showing up or we end up canceling the race after the whole fleet crashes one or more times while trying to complete a regatta. This has become very frustrating for all involved. This includes racers, organized and unorganized cruising and the aviation community. It includes the membership of Nantucket Yacht Club, Fisher’s Island Yacht Club, Starboards Yacht Club and Hollywood Airport plus all the smaller airfields and marinas that border on and use the Blake Sea. Something needs to be done about this, the situation is now critical, the Blake Sea is unenjoyable most of the time.

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Dane237 commented at 2016-11-13T02:29:17Z

The drop in service levels of service caused by deprecating or phasing out the rolling restarts sends a powerful message. To an extent, the change represents bypassing a security control. By restarting, performance is kept at a base level and in memory processes brought to questionable states are cleansed. The area in question is known for frequent (application layer) attacks.

There are individuals in SL who take sailing and aviation seriously even from RL standpoints. From a process, performance and security perspective, it seems short sighted if the goal is building a sustainable online community. The medium is unstable, frustrating and at risk from availability and integrity perspectives. Isn't the medium the message?

Additionally even if there is some major reason upcoming in the next six months or more apparently supporting cutting services, there are still people whose quality of SL is being impacted. Is that what the larger community of custodian really wants for residents to experience? One asks, "What does it say about the future?"

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

LunaAzulejo commented at 2016-11-13T02:46:41Z

Whirly says: "I don't agree that the problem started when mainland got the increased prim capacity."

Maybe it is just coincidental, but that is the ONLY major change LL has announced recently.

In any event, the situation has become intolerable. Not everyone comes to SL just to stand around and chat in one place. Please fix this.

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jene Bekkers commented at 2016-11-13T02:51:43Z

Due to a lot of patience there are still sailors we try to make the best of it. However, even for de die hards it's taking away their pleasure. So LL ACT!!

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starshaofescondar commented at 2016-11-13T03:32:32Z

Every mainland sim waterway and land should be restarted once per day! 10 years ago the cost of servers, storage and bandwidth were ridiculously high, but today in 2016... all of that is rock bottom super cheap! Yet we are all still paying to Linden Labs... the same astronomically high land prices of 10 years ago. My point of saying that is... with the super high tier costs of 10 years ago still being charged to all of us who want to have land... there should be more than enough money to spend on hiring someone to do server restarts all day long, every day. Sailing or flying in SL has gotten extremely frustrating. Isnt it bad enough that LL wont do anything about all the selfish morons who are allowed to shut down an block water passages with their stupid ban lines an 10 second security orbs?
Nope... try tp-ing into any mainland sim and you have grey blobs for days... textures dont even materialize for 20-30 minutes, you can barely move, you cant see anything... Second Norway, Honah Le islands and new england ones all have this issue.... Tuarua Fiji Seychelles have this issue... all of the land continents have this issue... the only place I do not have these issues is in THE NORTH SEA... and my own estate which I restart once a day an sometimes even twice a day. My estate rarely ever lags or blobs out... an when it does blob... that last 10-15 seconds tops. Seriously... Linden Labs... I love you guys... love spending a few hundred a month every month in SL... please please please... restart every mainland land sim & waterway at least once per day.... please?!

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nightingale Solo commented at 2016-11-13T04:34:54Z

As you can see, there are many frustrated sailors and aviators who enjoy Second Life with a passion. I too, am a Race Director who operates on the Blake Sea. I feel very apologetic to ask racers to participate when conditions are so bad. We individuals and the Yacht Clubs all do our best to make sailing for the competitive as well as sailing for the casual and beginning sailor a fun and enriching experience. These activities promote community with such positive real life results as Sail 4 Life donations in the thousands of US Dollars. It gives people a chance to accomplish goals they can't in real life, because of circumstance or physical or mental ability. Please consider scheduling more frequent restarts for the Blake Sea at least. Or perhaps this power could be given to a select few who can be trusted to do the restarting without the need of LL's attention. There is already a group for people to help clear out griefers and left over vehicles (Blake Sea).

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vivipezz commented at 2016-11-13T04:56:32Z, updated at 2016-11-13T04:58:38Z

When a whole fleet disappears in one sim crossing, it is definitely past time for maintenance ! As another race director operating in the Blake Sea, i have seen this happen way too frequently lately... LL, Please do something about it.

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Rebecca Rozen commented at 2016-11-13T05:28:40Z

I support the request to bring back weekly rolling maintenance for the grid and especially for the Blake Sea Regions, as for now a lot of lag is experienced in these regions regularly. Ships and planes crash at crossings.

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jimmyson Bracula commented at 2016-11-13T06:25:43Z

I agree , I been on sl back when we did not have resident as a last name.I seen places come and go but sense over the years ,I seen less and less maintenance on main channel and more lag even on weekends when the most people are online. I love sailing and flying ,both and so does my wife but hard to sail when you get kick off your own boat crossing a simple region in the Blake Sea. Look LL we all know you working on a other type of grid and like others to try it ,but alot of us have spend a huge alot of money and sense you might not transfer our inventory to it ,have a heart do more restarts on main channel like it should.I remember when there was over 104,000 people or more ,now alot less.If you what keep your product that makes money going this not way to do it. Help people that like this , help get griefers that what destroy it because they do not care and help keep SL going better

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Carter Davidov commented at 2016-11-13T07:20:54Z

I didn't know whether to laugh, cry or throw my computer through a window one night when repeated attempts just to LEAVE THE MARINA ended with me sitting on bottom at the sim crossing while my boats carried on without me. Also as a pilot, I have noticed that larger aircraft I have flown before have become unmanageable. Many times attempting to take out smaller craft also end in failure. Too damned many times. I don't know if its the prim allowance or the lack of restarts or the gravitational effects of Uranus on Pluto. Something has deteriorated fast. I have done a wipe and reload on my computer recently hoping maybe it was on my end. Guess what? Logged back on. No changes whatsoever. Maybe y'all have moved on to the next new toy and are saying to hell with crappy old SL. It sure feels like it

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Malin Sabra commented at 2016-11-13T07:35:43Z

I've had nothing but issues over the last 11 days (almost 12 days) since the last maintenance on mainland with the prim increase. I've attempted to go flying 5 times and every single time I'll hit a few sims that will freeze me up then disconnect me. Before the last maintenance I RARELY had any issues flying 40-100 sims. I miss flying and sailing.

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lifeofsheree commented at 2016-11-13T07:56:20Z

Flying and sailing is becoming harder and harder this year where crossing sims leads to bouncing off sim crossings, being thrown into a sim which isn't responding only to be "offsim" despite being within the confines of the sim, planes/helicopters removed. Many of us are active in sailing and aviation communities yet the want to fly and sail become diminished when it becomes too difficult to bother with.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

nil1965 commented at 2016-11-13T08:00:11Z, updated at 2016-11-13T08:01:08Z

I suffer more than "normal rate" sl issues for some weeks now, the last been the worst. Sim crossings crashes more often than usual, camera mess, at times hard to rez or see objects properly.

Even typing my comment here proved ...laggy!

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Orca Flotta commented at 2016-11-13T09:54:56Z

We've seen Blake Sea acting up before the new prim capacities and I don't think they've got a lot to do with the occuring problem. I guess a daily restart of the Blake and surounding public ocean regions would be a good first aid tho. Plus, just to be on the save side, we never had a prim scarcity on public waterways, so maybe dial the new prim capacities back to where they've always been.

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arya89 commented at 2016-11-13T10:08:46Z

I bet at a certain point LL moved "blake sea" and other mainland sims in obsolete servers for let run Project Sansar in "new" or at least better performing servers. So I think the crappy performance of SL will last until all SL population will migrate to Project Sansar.

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CelestrialRose commented at 2016-11-13T12:24:38Z

Please restart rolling restarts to the water course of sl .. Please! Sailing is one of the few pass times that helps, and of course, meeting friends on the water cruises, races, ect ect, though I dont expect to meet them all on the seabed, after the sim borders are messed up AGAIN!ONCE is funny twice is ok but EVERY time you head out? Not to mention the rez squares on Blake and Bingo straights that dont allow you to a, rez your item and b, tell you that you should "look in the land owners map for a suitable place to rez your items. " Then there is the differing heights between some sims, and of course our old favorite. "Let`s go flying at subsonic speeds in(or sometimes a sim away from ) your sailing boat, only to have the boat returned ( sometimes) and end up sitting in some poor sods garden on an impromptu visit. So please reconsider this as a priority ! It is all well and good promising bigger, better things with Project Sansar BUT that doesn't mean neglect those of us still in SL .. Rose Brightflame™

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Patrick Leavitt commented at 2016-11-13T14:30:18Z

I agree with this request and add my voice to the others that weekly restarts are needed especially in the areas that are frequented by many users. I find that in my private estate that every three to four days is best and use that restart schedule religiously. We have found that when it goes longer many more problems develop and even after a large boat or a group of vehicles travel through the estate that regions performance is effected and we will often restart at that time. The Blake sea and other areas that are heavily used by vehicles often becomes impossible to sail or even fly through and instances of becoming detached from the vehicle or even crashing become unbearable.

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

GingerHenderson commented at 2016-11-13T16:28:09Z

I have seen things getting worst and worst as well the past months. Do bring regular weekly restarts again to help with refreshing things up.

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carola32 commented at 2016-11-13T17:00:19Z

sailing and racing are last week bad around and Blakesea, to much crashes and flying boats, or pushed of the boat during simpasses. I agree with this request, I hope all will be better

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Heather Schlag commented at 2016-11-13T17:01:29Z

it is really getting time that Lindens start looking at SL and do a minimum of one restart every week , better would be two restarts a week , and in the almost ten years that I am here I never experienced this much lag and specially in the Blake area , it really spoils the fun of going sailing and not to mention doing a sail race , I can only hope they will do something about it and taking all of us serious , and by saying this I hope things will get better and will bring us a more lag free SL experience

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Nber Medici commented at 2016-11-13T17:02:23Z

Up vote!! This would be great.

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LucyHerne commented at 2016-11-13T17:05:17Z

I see some here are blaming the increase in prims for the problems with sim crossings and lag. However, if this comment from Amanda Dallin is correct - "12/Nov/16 11:18 PM This issue is affecting waters in private estates too. They can mitigate it to a degree by restarting all the time but that shouldn't be necessary." then it can't be the prim increase causing problems because, as I understand it, private estates haven't been given the increase yet. Only Mainland has had the increase and Lindens are waiting to see if there are any problems before giving it to Private Estates I do agree that regular weekly rolls of the Grid would be a good thing in my opinion.

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Liaf Snook commented at 2016-11-13T17:10:16Z

Sailing my Trudeau J Class on Blake sea is an activity that brings me deep joy. However recently it has become a nightmare with endless lags and crashes. A very sad state of affairs .

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Augwest101 Werefox commented at 2016-11-13T17:58:29Z

It has been bad lately and it needs to be fixed. When everyone in a race crashes that's bad. Sailing is one of the main reasons I am here, as it is with a lot of others. It is becoming increasingly less pleasurable and frustrating to sail. Just my two cents

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TexasTurtle commented at 2016-11-13T19:10:59Z

I am getting really fed up. I'm a sailor. I can no longer sail, as I used, to do. I left, SL, for several months...and decided to give, SL, ONE MORE TRY before QUITTING for GOOD. I've paid good money, here, for all my boats and other items. I want to USE them! Thank you!

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PeterSailor commented at 2016-11-13T19:23:18Z, updated at 2016-11-13T19:24:33Z

Recently I have crashed in one way or another in 75% of the races which I have entered in the Blake Sea. Crossing sim borders stops you, sims suddenly go down in the middle of a race, and sometimes your speed drops to a crawl. This is absurd!!!!! On the other hand I almost never crash in races in the North Sea. I frequently sail all over continental SL with no problems. It is only the Blake that makes it miserable. PLEASE RESUME ROLLING RESTARTS OF THE BLAKE SIMS ON A REGULAR WEEKLY SCHEDLE AS YOU ONCE DID WHEN SAILING IN THE BLAKE WAS A PLEASURE INSTEAD OF SUCH A FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE. HAVE YOU NO PRIDE IN WHAT YOU HAVE CREATED?

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Pasley Pennent commented at 2016-11-13T19:34:18Z

This action is needed I feel for more stable conditions on som crossings for anyone sailing ot flying throughout the mainland area.

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Montecore Babcock commented at 2016-11-13T19:49:35Z

Save the sailing community that you have had since the beginnings of SL. Please fix this issue before people give up on active sailing. This coming from the co founder of the Nantucket Yacht Club and the original SL New England sims built in 2006. – Montecore Babcock

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TracyToulset commented at 2016-11-13T21:42:40Z

Something needs to be done because sim crossings are noticeably worse the last few weeks. I can't even cycle along linden roads with an attachable bike now without crashing after a few sims.

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MarkTwain White commented at 2016-11-13T21:43:46Z

Please Vote yes on this JIRA. The more YES votes the more LL will pay attention. The squeaky wheel gets the grease according to one high ranking Linden. I am trying to arrange a conversation with the Lindens that are in charge of land issues. It is Sunday. I would not expect any response today,

sl-service-account commented 7 years ago

Keisha Thorne commented at 2016-11-13T21:53:16Z

The Blake Sea is crashing in several sims. Need to restarts to correct the sim issues!

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KyleWForrester commented at 2016-11-13T21:55:45Z

Sailing and flying in the blake is hazardous since the rolling restarts stopped. We don't want them back...we NEED them back....

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castedone2 commented at 2016-11-13T21:56:25Z

I concur with the return of weekly restarts. This issue has been going on long before the mainland prim increases. As others have indicated, the sailing community is particularly affected. Some of us have had to cut back our participation in weekend cruises and races because sims get so bad. Even solo sailing gets problematical. Regular rolling restarts could assist this.