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Whirly Fizzle commented at 2015-03-18T01:34:59Z
The repro hair displays correctly for me on all graphics settings on my Windows system. See Whirly_Windows.png attached.
Second Life 3.7.25 (299021) Feb 13 2015 15:21:02 (Second Life Release)
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Jodi Nikolaidis commented at 2015-03-18T01:49:11Z
This repos for me on Mac OsX Yosemite with an ATI card
Second Life 3.7.25 (299021) Feb 13 2015 16:12:24 (Second Life Release) Release Notes
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Whirly Fizzle commented at 2015-03-19T01:49:18Z
Could this be the same bug as BUG-5604 or BUG-3975 ?
hatake.kohime commented at 2015-06-17T05:52:26Z
What it looks like to me is that it's twisted around on itself, causing the transparency rendering to get confubulated and gross. It looks much akin to over stretching bezier handles so they overlap the shape path in a vector graphic. This creates undesired loops and chops in the path rather than a smooth, well created curve.
Miro Collas commented at 2017-08-17T02:54:14Z, updated at 2017-08-17T03:07:32Z
Seems to affect linux as well. Tested with Exile hair, "Old Flames". http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Covet/48/204/21 Also, many styles by Stealthic
If it helps: Firestorm 5.0.7 (52912) Jun 13 2017 10:58:03 (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support Release Notes
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Miro Collas commented at 2017-08-17T03:06:55Z
Exile "Old Flames" seen on FS on linux
Oz Linden commented at 2019-07-24T15:13:12Z
Does not repro on my build (rendering is identical to 6.2.3.527758):
Second Life Test Oz 6.2.4.529407 (64bit) Release Notes
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Alexa Linden commented at 2019-07-26T12:53:46Z
Marking as NMI so comments can be added
CronoCloud Creeggan commented at 2019-07-26T16:15:42Z, updated at 2019-07-26T16:19:50Z
Repro's for me on Linux and the bug has been in existence for a long time. You're getting more reports because more hair designers are using the mesh techniques that Stealthic introduced. The bug is NOT specific to one hair or hairmaker. As the "Stealthic techniques" have spread to more hairmakers, the bug is more widespread. My advice would be to talk to some of the hair creators to see what they're doing their mesh different than in the past. Specifically Truth and Stealthic. I think they're using a feature in their mesh that works in Windows OpenGL but not on Linux and MacOS. If that's the case talking to them and figuring out what they're doing now can help you figure out where the issue is and then if it's the viewer....fix it. Or if its with OpenGL on Linux and MacOS, help the OpenGL/Nvidia/ATI teams with the info they need to fix it.
It might actually be that the problem is in that OpenGL on Windows "allows" things to work when they shouldn't and that OpenGL on Linux/MacOS is more strict.
I've also added some images showing the bug in action on TRUTH's "Alias" hair.
Firestorm 6.2.4 (57588) Jul 11 2019 22:29:54 (64bit) (Firestorm-releasex64) Release Notes
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Whirly Fizzle commented at 2019-07-26T17:15:42Z
Chrono, we actually have a fix for this in Firestorm: https://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/80296261f0ac It's only fixed for Linux so far - a Mac fix is being worked on. If you would like a test build of FS with the fix, let me know.
Kyle Linden commented at 2019-07-26T17:35:19Z
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Gabriele Graves commented at 2019-07-26T20:47:19Z, updated at 2019-07-27T11:41:52Z
I can confirm what Crono is seeing. I have been experiencing this bug for an extremely long time on Linux as well. I am seeing the exact same thing in the same way with the exact same hair vendors. This issue isn't limited to just hairs though, it is just more easily seen there due to the hair technique that Crono alluded to. However, it can also be seen on some transparent mesh clothing items as well. It is not limited to items being attached to avatar either as rezzing the items with the issue on the ground will also show the same issue.
Whirly, I would be happy to test the FS fix too. I have sent you a notecard inworld.
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Whirly Fizzle commented at 2019-07-28T04:39:42Z
Firestorm Linux test build sent to CronoCloud & Gabriele.
Gabriele Graves commented at 2019-07-28T05:02:54Z
Preliminary testing of the Firestorm Linux test build seems to fix the issue for me. I have checked all the hairs I know to be a problem and so far all have rendered correctly. I will continue testing with this build and report here again if I see the issue on any mesh objects. Thanks to Whirly and the FS team!
Loron Fhang commented at 2019-07-28T20:24:34Z
That's good timing. I've long had a problem that looks very very similar to this, but with a bento tail. I found this also happens only on Linux, Windows is fine, can't say for Mac though.
I happened to try this out today on the latest release version of Firestorm wondering if it was fixed, it wasn't so I went looking for bug reports. Would be glad to try out your test build too :)
Firestorm 6.0.2 (56680) Feb 8 2019 23:11:19 (64bit) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support Release Notes
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Rubbette commented at 2019-07-29T10:58:45Z, updated at 2019-07-29T10:59:32Z
Just to add a little more variation to it: It's not only hair/tails. It's basically anything mesh that has transparency. It doesn't matter if the transparency is added to the face or it comes from the texture itself. :)
I've added the rear end of a car to compare non-transparent and 2% transparent. ;)
Whirly Fizzle commented at 2019-07-29T17:53:12Z, updated at 2019-07-29T17:53:38Z
Loron Fhang, I sent you the Firestorm test build link in IM.
Can anyone on Mac Mojave still reproduce this bug on the LL viewer or Firestorm? So far it seems to be fixed for everyone on Mac Mojave.
CronoCloud Creeggan commented at 2019-07-30T19:02:13Z
I've finally had some time to do some testing and the Linux Nightly Whirly Fizzle sent me does fix the issue, I haven't been able to determine any performance hit yet though, if there is one it isn't very much.
JanneGado commented at 2019-08-04T04:14:46Z
Will this fix take time to be included in the stable version? If so, I would like to try the Firestorm test build. :)
Whirly Fizzle commented at 2019-08-05T16:01:48Z
Janne, download link sent in your IM.
https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/441120-problem-with-mesh-hair/ Feedback from people testing the fix on Linux.
cicelydawn commented at 2019-08-05T20:16:51Z
I would love to check out the test build if possible! Installed Windows because of this one and would be thrilled to leave it behind
JanneGado commented at 2019-08-06T23:53:53Z
So far all the hairs that had that problem are shown correctly with the nightly version of Firestorm, thank you very much!
ehawee2016 commented at 2019-10-01T18:56:47Z
Wow - I am very happy about the fix.
On several hair I own it is fixed - even the demo hair I added a picture here and the Sweet Thing Fluffy Neko Tail.
The Fae Wings of egosumaii are not fixed.
I attachted 3 pictures for comparison.
Firestorm 6.3.2 (58052) Sep 28 2019 09:32:20 (64bit) (Firestorm-Releasex64)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz (1763.26 MHz) Memory: 32107 MB OS Version: Linux 5.0.0-29-generic #31~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 12 18:29:21 UTC 2019 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2
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Diamond Caudron commented at 2020-01-16T07:53:40Z
I posted some examples of the Eternity hair above, but the unrigged versions do not seem to exhibit the issue at all.
Jerrod Diavolo commented at 2020-11-26T19:44:37Z
I am on Gentoo Linux using Firestorm 6.4.5 (60799) Jul 23 2020 01:33:39 (64bit) (Firestorm-Betax64)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (2048.74 MHz) Memory: 64311 MB OS Version: Linux 5.9.11 #20 SMP Tue Nov 24 17:36:59 CET 2020 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: AMD Graphics Card: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (NAVI10, DRM 3.39.0, 5.9.11, LLVM 11.0.0)
OpenGL Version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 20.3.0-rc2
I see this with Magika - Fiona
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Jerrod Diavolo commented at 2020-11-26T20:36:20Z
Same issue with Magika Gemma but at a smaller scale, so only visible from closer distances
JIRAUSER338068 commented at 2021-08-07T17:44:59Z
Firestorm 6.4.21 (64531) Jul 21 2021 21:57:13 (64bit / SSE2) (Firestorm-Release) Release Notes
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JIRAUSER339761 commented at 2021-12-09T15:36:18Z
Same issue I seen today trying to switch to Linux... since this has existed since 2015 I am guessing its on the "we will never fix this" pile
ehawee2016 commented at 2022-06-16T17:41:52Z, updated at 2022-06-17T12:38:09Z
Hello,
I still have that Issue with several hair. For some hair it became better with an earlier update but i observe these destructions again on more hair than before. Probably because they are also newer hair models.
I will add pictures of a Magika hair I bought on the SL19B. Despite the destruction, I could not resist.
Magika - Hair - Gemma By Sabina Gully Mainstore LM: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Magika/127/128/22 SL19B LM: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Zinnia/165/93/53
Still, I would be happy if there is an update soon, which will end these destructions.
These destructions do not seem to exist under Windows. So something seems to be different for the viewer under Linux than for the one for Windows.
Maybe I will post pictures from others hair later that has similar destructions.
Firestorm 6.5.3 (65658) Mar 1 2022 08:29:37 (64bit / SSE2) (Firestorm-Releasex64)
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Edit 2022-06-17 Picture: [MAGNIFICENT] THOR Bun - Grooming Hair - Ehawee Ravenhurst - 2022.png Mainstore LM: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Paris%20City/76/90/2
Dan Linden commented at 2023-01-19T18:57:53Z
Does this bug reproduce for anyone on a Mac? If so, please paste in your Help > About Second Life info, and tell us where to get a copy of the content that has triangles.
szcz commented at 2023-08-09T13:10:07Z, updated at 2023-08-11T11:40:34Z
Firestorm 6.6.8 (68380) Jan 3 2023 19:34:45 (64bit / SSE2) (Firestorm-Releasex64) Release Notes
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor (3696.68 MHz) Memory: 32001 MB Concurrency: 24 OS Version: Linux 6.4.6-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Jul 25 09:30:58 UTC 2023 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080/PCIe/SSE2 Graphics Card Memory: 10240 MB
OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.86.05
RestrainedLove API: RLV v3.4.3 / RLVa v2.4.2.68380 libcurl Version: libcurl/7.81.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1l zlib/1.2.11.zlib-ng nghttp2/1.25.0 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v8.2 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Studio 2.02.09 Dullahan: 1.12.2.202209171157 CEF: 91.1.23+g04c8d56+chromium-91.0.4472.164 Chromium: 91.0.4472.164 LibVLC Version: Using gstreamer 1.0 Voice Server Version: Not Connected Settings mode: Firestorm Viewer Skin: MetaHarper Modern (BlackGlass) Window size: 1219x1002 px Font Used: Noto Sans (96 dpi) Font Size Adjustment: 0 pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 256 m Bandwidth: 1300 kbit/s LOD factor: 4 Render quality: Ultra (7/7) Advanced Lighting Model: Yes Texture memory: Dynamic (4096 MB min / 20% Cache / 20% VRAM) Disk cache: Max size 2048.0 MB (100.0% used) Built with GCC version 70500 Packets Lost: 18/16 937 (0,1%) August 09 2023 06:04:52 SLT
hair in the picture is https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Ayashi-Risako-hair-DEMO/24541019
also happens on https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Ayashi-Shiina-hair-DEMO/24784822
and =DeLa*= Mesh Hair "Darla"
and many others
This happens in all viewers running natively in linux, on windows everything looks correct.
Whirly Fizzle commented at 2023-08-17T01:12:10Z
Hiya szcz,
Please update to the new Firestorm 6.6.14 release. This bug is fixed!
https://wiki.firestormviewer.org/changelog:firestorm_change_log_6.6.14.69596 FIXED Linux - Fixed triangles showing in certain mesh hair & tails on Linux Pulled in Alchemy Viewer's vertex cache optimizer fix to smooth out triangle soup in certain hair/tails
Steps to Reproduce
View the Rianna hair from Moda Designs: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/MODA/57/147/26
Actual Behavior
A mesh hair that looks correct to Windows users appears broken to users on Macs running Mavericks and Yosemite, regardless of graphics settings and graphics cards. (I tested on Mavericks with an Nvidia card; a friend was on Yosemite with ATI.)
ALM on or off makes no difference. Hardware skinning on or off makes no difference. Changing alpha mask settings makes no difference. All render quality settings from Low to Ultra were checked. Neither of us generally has trouble viewing mesh.
A user on Windows was able to see the hair correctly.
The store owner had contacted the Firestorm team about two Mac users who had complained about the same hair. We tested on SL Viewer as well to confirm that it was not Firestorm-specific. Environment provided is from the version of V3 I used.
Expected Behavior
I was expecting the hair to look as it's designed to look.
Other information
In the attached snapshot, the avatar is wearing the hair; an image of what it's supposed to look like is in the background.
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| Field | Value | | ------------- | ------------- | | Issue | BUG-8801 | | Summary | Certain Mesh Hair with alpha triangles, Mac and Linux specific | | Type | Bug | | Priority | Unset | | Status | Needs More Info | | Resolution | Unresolved | | Reporter | Lette Ponnier (lette.ponnier) | | Created at | 2015-03-18T01:11:59Z | | Updated at | 2023-08-17T01:12:09Z | ``` { 'Business Unit': ['Platform'], 'Date of First Response': '2015-03-17T20:34:58.892-0500', "Is there anything you'd like to add?": "In the attached snapshot, the avatar is wearing the hair; an image of what it's supposed to look like is in the background.", 'Severity': 'Unset', 'System': 'SL Viewer', 'Target Viewer Version': 'viewer-development', 'What just happened?': 'A mesh hair that looks correct to Windows users appears broken to users on Macs running Mavericks and Yosemite, regardless of graphics settings and graphics cards. (I tested on Mavericks with an Nvidia card; a friend was on Yosemite with ATI.)\r\n\r\nALM on or off makes no difference. Hardware skinning on or off makes no difference. Changing alpha mask settings makes no difference. Neither of us generally has trouble viewing mesh.\r\n\r\nA user on Windows was able to see the hair correctly.', 'What were you doing when it happened?': 'The store owner had contacted the Firestorm team about two Mac users who had complained about the same hair. We tested on SL Viewer as well to confirm that it was not Firestorm-specific.', 'What were you expecting to happen instead?': "I was expecting the hair to look as it's designed to look.", 'Where': "http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/MODA/57/147/26\r\nThe problem is probably not specific to the location, but a demo of the hair can be obtained. It's the Rianna hair.", } ```