[BUG-229433] Limit Use of RLV to Adult-Rated Regions/Islands

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How would you like the feature to work?

Limit Use of RLV to Adult-Rated Regions/Islands.

Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?

Sexual control/slavery is effectively concurrent with RLV use – in my experience and observation, that's 95% if not more of the reason for using RLV. Sexual slavery is an Adult topic, that can't be argued.

I have been following, on the World Map. a new player who got entrapped into sexual slavery. At least two locations were in Moderate-rated sims. She was able to confirm to me that she'd been raped, and she has twice able to signal for help. (I don't know why she can't/refuses-to go to Second Life Viewer, which doesn't support RLV, and thus "cheat out".)

This use of Moderate-rated land precludes simply setting Preferences to General&Moderate as a fix. (Setting to General-only would be inappropriate due to sexual-slavery-related attire.)

Currently, the TOS (see Reference below) only requires not advertising as Adult-rated. One Moderate-rated parcel said it was RACK and SSC compliant – I was signaled that it was not. The woman subsequently wound up at the Bondage Storage Project (which is Adult-rated).

I'm not a prude (although my roleplays are always consensual). I am concerned about the emotional harm I am perceiving.

REFERENCE: https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/maturity-ratings-r52/#Section__1_3

NOTE: See the response to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-226793

Links

Related

• [ ] https://github.com/secondlife/jira-archive/issues/5247

Original Jira Fields

| Field | Value | | ------------- | ------------- | | Issue | BUG-229433 | | Summary | Limit Use of RLV to Adult-Rated Regions/Islands | | Type | New Feature Request | | Priority | Unset | | Status | Closed | | Resolution | Unactionable | | Reporter | OthirMan (othirman) | | Created at | 2020-09-29T18:42:08Z | | Updated at | 2020-09-30T17:58:48Z | ``` { 'Build Id': 'unset', 'Business Unit': ['Platform'], 'Date of First Response': '2020-09-29T14:44:26.050-0500', 'How would you like the feature to work?': 'Limit Use of RLV to Adult-Rated Regions/Islands.', 'ReOpened Count': 0.0, 'Severity': 'Unset', 'Target Viewer Version': 'viewer-development', 'Why is this feature important to you? How would it benefit the community?': 'Sexual control/slavery is effectively concurrent with RLV use -- in my experience and observation, that\'s 95% if not more of the reason for using RLV. Sexual slavery is an Adult topic, that can\'t be argued.\r\n\r\nI have been following, on the World Map. a new player who got entrapped into sexual slavery. At least two locations were in Moderate-rated sims. She was able to confirm to me that she\'d been raped, and she has twice able to signal for help. (I don\'t know why she can\'t/refuses-to go to Second Life Viewer, which doesn\'t support RLV, and thus "cheat out".)\r\n\r\nThis use of Moderate-rated land precludes simply setting Preferences to General&Moderate as a fix. (Setting to General-only would be inappropriate due to sexual-slavery-related attire.)\r\n\r\nCurrently, the TOS (see Reference below) only requires not advertising as Adult-rated. One Moderate-rated parcel said it was RACK and SSC compliant -- I was signaled that it was not. The woman subsequently wound up at the Bondage Storage Project (which is Adult-rated).\r\n\r\nI\'m not a prude (although my roleplays are always consensual). I am concerned about the emotional harm I am perceiving.\r\n\r\nREFERENCE: https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/maturity-ratings-r52/#Section__1_3 \r\n\r\nNOTE: See the response to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-226793 ', } ```

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Chaser Zaks commented at 2020-09-29T19:44:26Z

Hello!

RLV is not a feature that Linden Lab/Second Life maintains or officially support. To suggest changes to RLV, you would need to go to the people who maintain RLV. Restricting it to adult only regions would interfere with the "Behind closed doors" policy. Adult activity is allowed on moderate land provided it is behind closed doors.

It is important to know that some people take RLV/role-play seriously, and you may have encountered a instance where someone is refusing to break character. If you feel someone wants to escape RLV, the best course of action is to advise them how to escape. A good way to check if someone is roleplaying is to ask in parenthesis like so: "(((Are you in a roleplay scenario, or do you actually need assistance?)))"

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Whirly Fizzle commented at 2020-09-29T20:08:27Z

RLV/RLVa is used for a lot of purposes that are not adult-rated in any way.

For example:

• RLV wardrobes - many creators sell RLV wardrobes & they are big sellers. These enable the user to organize & change their avatars outfit via an external web page. For example: https://carlyletheassolutions.com/wardrobe.php?id=
• RLV is heavily used in the kid/family community to enhance roleplay, for example, parents can dress their children via RLV shared folders, parents can have their children follow them around using baby reins without the child having to interact by using forced teleports & follow while being connected to the parent with the reins (giving the child the RP experience of relying on adults to get around in SL). Parents can force animate their child to put them to bed or give them a hug etc. For example: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Yuus-Nuuu-Parent-Kids-Greatest-Tool-SL-Child-Essentials/1759349
• RLV can be used to lock certain attachments (eg hair, head and huds) in place so they remain attached when you replace outfit.
• RLV can be used to automatically & instantly switch to a desired roleplay outfit when you walk through a door or a portal.
• RLV can be used to automatically & quickly cycle through windlights or environment settings.

• ..and many more

  RLV is basically a fun automation system that you can choose to give others control over if you wish. RLV can be used in adult rated ways by it's by no means the only use.

  Limiting RLV from working on any region that isn't adult-rated will break a lot of non-adult RLV content from working & upset a lot of users. For this reason I think this feature request is a terrible idea.

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Kitty Barnett commented at 2020-09-29T21:02:55Z

The fact that you're able to 'follow' someone 'sexually enslaved' across SL makes me think you took part in some sort of capture roleplay and ran into someone who - from your description - seemed to not want to break character. Even though it sounds like your end of the conversation was not intended to be RP you would clearly have been aware of the 'stalker' vs 'prey' roles you were both in.

It can definitely be disconcerting when taken out of that roleplay context, but as you even indicate everyone always has the option to relog without RLV and get rid of the controlling attachment (or hit the quit button at any point for an instant escape from any situation).

So ultimately the situation breaks down into someone engaging in adult RP in a region you claim it was inappropriate in. The easiest way is to simply remove yourself from the situation by teleporting away; or talking to the parcel's owner (if they are online) to let them know and leave it up to their judgement, or finally to file an abuse report with LL.

Another option is to contact the person running the group or scripted tool you're both part of and letting them know that maybe people shouldn't be trackable in non-adult regions (no part of RLV will give anyone or anything your inworld present location, or let people map you, so there is always 'vanilla' scripting involved here).

The community standards already deal with enforcing the PG and M ratings (using RLV - for kink or otherwise - does not exempt you from making sure whatever you're doing is appropriate for where you are) and the ToS - and TPV guidelines - covers any cases where someone does try to make the choice of using RLV non-consensual and LL will (and does) take action whenever we've reported those viewer(-like) programs.

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coffeedujour commented at 2020-09-30T00:09:56Z

RLVa (Like Second Life in general) is opt it. It must be deliberately enabled by the user.

RLVa can be disabled by the user, easily and at any time.

The user can always log in without RLVa or use a viewer that does not support it.

The user can always simply log off to avoid any situation, regardless of RLVa.

RLVa is a scripted LSL<->viewer interface that can and is used for many things.

 

No one needs to be actually saved.

 

This is all just roleplay with extra steps.

 

 

 

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Kyle Linden commented at 2020-09-30T17:58:49Z

Hello, and thank you for your feature request.

Incoming suggestions are reviewed in the order they are received by a team of Lindens with diverse areas of expertise. We consider a number of factors: Is this change possible? Will it increase lag? Will it break existing content? Is it likely that the number of residents using this feature will justify the time to develop it? This wiki page further describes the reasoning we use: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Feature_Requests

This particular suggestion, unfortunately, cannot be tackled at this time. However, we regularly review previously deferred suggestions when circumstances change or resources become available.

We are grateful for the time you took to submit this feature request. We hope that you are not discouraged from submitting others in the future. Many excellent ideas to improve Second Life come from you, our residents. We can’t do it alone.

Thank you for your continued commitment to Second Life.