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Incorrect distributions for Plecoptera: Brachypterainae Zwick, 1973 #12

Closed redewalt closed 11 months ago

redewalt commented 11 months ago

Heidi,

I was checking on the spelling of a subfamily of Plecoptera. In doing so, I found some geographic distributions that don't make sense for Brachypterainae Zwick, 1973 in Plecoptera SF (see below). This subfamily should not be in S Am, central Africa, nor Madagascar. It could be in Northwest Africa in the Atlas Mountains, but nowhere else in the continent.

Of course, I will have to go through the entire hierarchy to root out problems in the data set. Please check on these errors and let me know how they could have been produced.

mjy commented 11 months ago

@redewalt French Guiana (South America) is a well know problem that has been reported repeatedly. We are still discussing how to fix, it will persist for some time.

Madagascar is a new one. It is possible for you to do a lot of debugging fairly efficiently with the filtering we have. It might be worth reviewing this process with Lily and our help.

hhopkins77 commented 11 months ago

I will bring this issue to the meeting on Wednesday, @mjy, and learn about the debugging you mention.

@redewalt the issue with French Guiana is a known problem, but I don't know what might be going on with Central African Republic and Madagascar. I will take this to this week's meeting.

lvhart2 commented 11 months ago

I will also sit in on this week's meeting to see this filtering in action.

mjy commented 11 months ago

In brief:

For example, searching for clues for "Madagascar":

mjy commented 11 months ago

Madagascar intersect is due to Norway. https://sfg.taxonworks.org/geographic_areas/33835. So there is more to this problemantic shape than (I believe it was one of the TDWG shapes we used) we anticipated.

This one could be handled by switching all Plecoptera Norway from TDWG to the Natural Earth version I believe. We of course also will want to fix the shape/intersection problem at some point too.

redewalt commented 11 months ago

Have you had a change to find a home for the Perla pdf?

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Madagascar intersect is due to Norway. https://sfg.taxonworks.org/geographic_areas/33835https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sfg.taxonworks.org/geographic_areas/33835__;!!DZ3fjg!6vYMWEKP5AhYoxaci28-RS4LzxgxwcS3wM9kTrTafxugV0BouAvLYp6FlEH15PRIpIz0sgjr2F2u9Is81UVecYeIig$. So there is more to this problemantic shape than (I believe it was one of the TDWG shapes we used) we anticipated.

This one could be handled by switching all Plecoptera Norway from TDWG to the Natural Earth version I believe. We of course also will want to fix the shape/intersection problem at some point too.

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mjy commented 11 months ago

We almost have it, found another set of issues that we have been resolving.

redewalt commented 11 months ago

Matt, it looks good. Thanks

hhopkins77 commented 11 months ago

@mjy : Glad the Madagascar problem has been detected. Any ideas on Central African Republic?

mjy commented 11 months ago

@hhopkins77 It's probably the same class of problems I will demonstrate how you can confirm this (essentially the steps above) tomorrow, but in essence you need to find each asserted distribution geographic area and step through them in /geographic_areas, checking the preview map on the bottom right for which one shows the bad CAR data.

hhopkins77 commented 11 months ago

Ok. More tomorrow when I will take some detailed notes.

hhopkins77 commented 11 months ago

@mjy : I went through the steps from yesterday until I reached the cached map items report. I searched through cached map items report for CAR but did not find it. Without finding it at that step I can't proceed through the rest of the steps I wrote down yesterday. Need your instruction on how to proceed.

Also, under the Plecoptera species Brachyptera risi (the one with the Madagascar problem) there is also a cached map item for Toliary which is a district within Madagascar. This is also tied to the Norway tdwg_l3 map tile so I don't think it requires a separate issue to be filed, but wanted to check with you.

lvhart2 commented 11 months ago

Newfoundland is the culprit for CAR! Maybe it is helpful to explain how I found it: Filter OTUs->Search Brachypterainae in Taxon Name with descendants->Radial Filter on top left->Asserted Distributions-> this gave a 435 record result so I chose show 1000 records per page, then clicked Geographic Area field title to alphabetize the results.->In new tab in PSF TW project, go to Data-> open Geographic Areas->go down the list of filtered asserted distributions and search each unique geographic area for inconsistencies.

@hhopkins77 I too went to the cached map report and it was really no help just looking at that alone, so I had to cross reference what it shows on the AD map "cached map report" with what it SHOULD list on filtered asserted distributions.

@mjy The part I'm stuck on now is how you select the Natural Earth map tile instead. I remember we saw that Move button yesterday and I can't remember how we got there. Also where should I add this as an issue in GitHub? Thanks!

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mjy commented 11 months ago

Nice work @lvhart2. We'll see if we can get the shapes fixed.

mjy commented 11 months ago

@lvhart2 Filter -> Asserted distributions -> after the result you can use the update icon:

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hhopkins77 commented 11 months ago

@lvhart2 : excellent job! thanks for sharing how you found it. I moved the asserted distribution to the correct tile set for the one species with Newfoundland as an AD. I will file issue.