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ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 #793

Open chuhang123 opened 5 years ago

chuhang123 commented 5 years ago

2019-04-05 19-13-15屏幕截图

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

解决了吗,我也碰到了这个问题

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

我也出现这个问题,刚开始连接的时候没有问题;然后就超时了

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

我是连接不上,连接上了,没有网络可以用,没有走流量,你的问题解决了吗,之前我在centos上面可以使用,应该不是系统的问题吧,我同学在ubuntu16上面也可以使用

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我也出现这个问题,刚开始连接的时候没有问题;然后就超时了

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

你用系统代理了吗?要走socks5代理的,我是时灵时不灵的

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

在ubuntu里面设置了network,手动代理,但是好像没用,不知道为啥

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你用系统代理了吗?要走socks5代理的,我是时灵时不灵的

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

我也是生效了一会儿,然后超时了

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

ubuntu上使用的翻墙软件,还有别的比较好用的吗

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我也是生效了一会儿,然后超时了

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zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

那你最终在ubuntu上翻墙成功了吗

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我也是生效了一会儿,然后超时了

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

没有。。。发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 那你最终在ubuntu上翻墙成功了吗

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

对的啊,怎么了发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 你是学生吗

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没有。。。发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 那你最终在ubuntu上翻墙成功了吗

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

ubuntu 好像设置了什么翻不了,我在公司电脑上的windows可以翻墙

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

我感觉就是ubuntu18.04的毛病

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ubuntu 好像设置了什么翻不了,我在公司电脑上的windows可以翻墙

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

ubuntu16也这样

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

对的,也是这样

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

有一闪而过的ping,之后就直接error了

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

可以看看这个使用手册https://github.com/shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5/wiki/%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8%E6%89%8B%E5%86%8C

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有一闪而过的ping,之后就直接error了

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

不是的,估计是用的ipv6或者防火墙的问题;但是我关闭防火墙之后还是照样会有的

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

ssr我也用过了,照样也不行

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

我解决了,原因是chacha20需要依赖libsodium然后我没有装,你装一个就好了

zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

是那个qt5的吗,你是怎么发现这个问题的

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我解决了,原因是chacha20需要依赖libsodium然后我没有装,你装一个就好了

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

对的,因为我加密的时候我记得要多加一个libsodium库,但是装客户端的时候并没有要加上去,你装一个就好了

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

怎么装libsodium库啊,这个命令是不是有问题?

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

怎么装libsodium库啊,这个命令是不是有问题?

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zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

啊?这个命令是有问题的吧

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对的发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 啊?这个命令是有问题的吧

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

怎么装libsodium库啊,这个命令是不是有问题?

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zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

那你能翻墙吗

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

装上之后就可以了发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 那你能翻墙吗

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

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haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

好吧,不太稳定发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 可以了,但是又出现新的bug了,哈哈

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zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

太不稳定了,火狐基本用不了,ssr你用过吗

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好吧,不太稳定发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 可以了,但是又出现新的bug了,哈哈

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装上之后就可以了发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 那你能翻墙吗

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对的发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 啊?这个命令是有问题的吧

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊    

怎么装libsodium库啊,这个命令是不是有问题?    

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FxLsoft commented 5 years ago

这个问题怎么解决啊

haoqing-yan commented 5 years ago

安装这个库啊,因为你加密方式不是chacha20嘛-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:FxLsoft 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:Donny Yan ,Comment 这个问题怎么解决啊

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zhanggaojian commented 5 years ago

你知道这个的桌面快捷方式怎么做吗

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装上之后就可以了发自我的华为手机-------- 原始邮件 --------主题:Re: [shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5] ubuntu18.04显示已连接,但是延迟错误,报错界面如下图 (#793)发件人:VincentZgj 收件人:shadowsocks/shadowsocks-qt5 抄送:yanwenjun98 ,Comment 那你能翻墙吗

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wget -qO- "https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tags" 就是用chacha20方式加密啊

怎么装libsodium库啊,这个命令是不是有问题?

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helocy commented 5 years ago

我遇到的问题是自动代理失效了,用手动代理,单独设置socks是可以用。现在怀疑自动代理pac文件有问题。

Liuqing650 commented 5 years ago

不稳定的问题到底出在哪里呢?这个有懂的高手调试一下吗?