Closed bsnouffer closed 4 years ago
I really like the static caveat description as well as the addition to the category description. Perhaps we could offer a link to a resource describing catch shares? such as https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/laws-and-policies/catch-shares
Hi all,
Allocation is a thorny issue that deserves some attention, but I don't think we could break it down in a way that wouldn't make the FishPath guidance utterly confusing. I like the idea of maybe pointing to documents or reference one could read deeper into the issue.
This could also also be an issue we bring up to the FishPath reviewers. In general, it might be a good idea to ask the reviewers their opinions on balancing exhaustive detail and parsimony in FishPath. FishPath cannot become a wikipage for all things in fisheries management. We need enough to identify major pitfalls and discussion points to move along the decision making process, but I don't feel it prudent to outline all varieties and issues of any given subject. That is what the note taking box is for!
-Jason
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I really like the static caveat description as well as the addition to the category description. Perhaps we could offer a link to a resource describing catch shares? such as https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/laws-and-policies/catch-shares
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Sounds like there is agreement around this is worthy of a mention, but to avoid going into detail about the issue. Also sounds like people agree on providing a resource for users to explore further on their own if desired. Is there agreement upon using the NOAA link? Or should another resource be used or added? Another possibility is listing the Anderson et al. reference.
Next week (Wed, Sept 2nd) I will add the proposed update to the catch limit category description along with the link suggested by Jono unless any concerns are stated. @jonowilson @shcaba @NatalieDowling
I agree with Jono and Jason and I reiterate my opinion that we need to tread very lightly around the issue of allocation. I'm happy with what is proposed. Perhaps in the user guide we add my favourite onion diagram which shows that allocation is a higher-level issue that isn't the remit of harvest strategies.
Added the description and link to all the options that have the static caveat discussed. This is all catch limit options except "daily trip limit, with or without a TAC" and "gear unit limits, with or without a TAC".
By addressing issues brought up in the Anderson et al 2018 paper (#218), a static caveat was added to catch limit options.
The caveat brings up the idea of allocation and quota systems. Currently, the concept of catch allocation is not discussed in the Tool. Since they are now being brought up in a caveat, Natalie and I were discussing that they should probably be at least touched upon in the Tool. Therefore, we are suggesting a small update to the catch limit category description (update in bold):
When discussing whether we should include allocation and quota system and if so, then how, Natalie gave this rationale, which led us to decide on suggesting just a short mention in the category description:
Before making the update to description, we would like to pose this question to the team. Does this seem like a reasonable route to go or are there other opinions about how to approach the question of allocation?