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shooking / ZoomPedalFun

A collection of tips and tricks for Zoom B1On, B1XFour and G1XFour pedals.
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G3n/g5n zd2s? #10

Closed Roseweave closed 2 years ago

Roseweave commented 2 years ago

I was trying to load those from the GCE folder onto my G1x Four, but they didn't work, particularly the Holdverb and Hold Delay. As far as I know, the G3n never got Holdverb, but the Hold Delay should work and should (I think) be compatible with the G1x Four but I don't think anyone's actually uploaded the proper g3n or g5n version.

If you could throw up the g5n zd2s it'd be much appreciated! the GCE ones don't seem to work

shooking commented 2 years ago

Hi @Roseweave I will try to do this in next few days. Bit tied up at the moment. AFAIK these are identical. I compare file size, fxid, gid and of course bytes. Please check out Mungewell's zoom-zt2: he discovered there was a guard.zt2 that disables certain FX. IE you cannot load particles on the newer units but can on G3n/G5n

Since I have all the units I will try to repeat your experiment. It might just be those FX are incompatible.

More as I get it. BTW if there are other UI enhancements just ping me ideas. I need to add Rhythm for the G5n/G3n/GCE in right emulation mode (and ability to load the different emulators if in GCE-3 mode). I haven't worked out looper yet.

shooking commented 2 years ago

hi @Roseweave Added G3n data Will ad the G5n probably early next year - need to backup my G5n before I factory reset it. Made a video of the G3n decoded with the b1xfour.py here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1SPHj7qDw Actually this is first time I tried this on the Bullseye Pi4 so I had to reinstall mido, construct, json5, python-rtmidi ... thanks as this reminded me I had done a poor job of documenting the dependencies.

pi@raspberrypi:~/Software/ZoomPedalFun/G3n/DerivedData/2.20 $ ls -l HOLDVERB.ZD2
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 37670 Dec 29 12:27 HOLDVERB.ZD2
pi@raspberrypi:~/Software/ZoomPedalFun/G3n/DerivedData/2.20 $ ls -l ../../../GCE-3/DerivedData/1.20/G5n_3.00/HOLDVERB.ZD2
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 37670 Aug  9 21:31 ../../../GCE-3/DerivedData/1.20/G5n_3.00/HOLDVERB.ZD2

they are identical length. So likely the G1XFour cannot handle the FX? I will try this next week. Please comment on any repro steps. Is it sufficient to take a factory reset G1XFour and attempt to use Mungewell's zoomzt2 to add in the HOLDVERB.ZD2? Then, if it claims to work, to try and use it with my b1xfour.py program?

Happy New Year

Roseweave commented 2 years ago

Thank you

shooking commented 2 years ago

I trialed on my B1XFour. It isnt possible.

pi@raspberrypi:~/Software/zoom-zt2 $ xxd -c 13 GUARDZDL.ZT2
00000000: 4754 5f47 4551 2e5a 4432 0000 00  GT_GEQ.ZD2...
0000000d: 4754 5f47 4551 5f37 2e5a 4432 00  GT_GEQ_7.ZD2.
0000001a: 5354 5f47 545f 4745 2e5a 4432 00  ST_GT_GE.ZD2.
00000027: 4547 4649 4c54 4552 2e5a 4432 00  EGFILTER.ZD2.
00000034: 5453 5f42 4f4f 5354 2e5a 4432 00  TS_BOOST.ZD2.
00000041: 5245 4443 5242 5354 2e5a 4432 00  REDCRBST.ZD2.
0000004e: 4d53 3830 302e 5a44 3200 0000 00  MS800.ZD2....
0000005b: 4d53 3139 3539 2e5a 4432 0000 00  MS1959.ZD2...
00000068: 4a54 4d34 354f 532e 5a44 3200 00  JTM45OS.ZD2..
00000075: 4644 5f54 5749 4e52 2e5a 4432 00  FD_TWINR.ZD2.
00000082: 4644 5f42 4d41 4e2e 5a44 3200 00  FD_BMAN.ZD2..
0000008f: 4644 5f44 4c58 522e 5a44 3200 00  FD_DLXR.ZD2..
0000009c: 4644 5f4d 5354 522e 5a44 3200 00  FD_MSTR.ZD2..
000000a9: 554b 3330 412e 5a44 3200 0000 00  UK30A.ZD2....
000000b6: 4247 5f4d 4b31 2e5a 4432 0000 00  BG_MK1.ZD2...
000000c3: 4247 5f4d 4b33 2e5a 4432 0000 00  BG_MK3.ZD2...
000000d0: 5854 4143 5942 4c55 2e5a 4432 00  XTACYBLU.ZD2.
000000dd: 4857 3130 302e 5a44 3200 0000 00  HW100.ZD2....
000000ea: 5243 545f 4f52 472e 5a44 3200 00  RCT_ORG.ZD2..
000000f7: 4f52 475f 3132 302e 5a44 3200 00  ORG_120.ZD2..
00000104: 445a 5f44 5256 2e5a 4432 0000 00  DZ_DRV.ZD2...
00000111: 4d41 5443 485f 3330 2e5a 4432 00  MATCH_30.ZD2.
0000011e: 4b49 434b 464c 4e47 2e5a 4432 00  KICKFLNG.ZD2.
0000012b: 4352 4e5f 5452 492e 5a44 3200 00  CRN_TRI.ZD2..
00000138: 4455 4f5f 5048 412e 5a44 3200 00  DUO_PHA.ZD2..
00000145: 4c4f 4f50 524f 4c4c 2e5a 4432 00  LOOPROLL.ZD2.
00000152: 4445 4c41 592e 5a44 3200 0000 00  DELAY.ZD2....
0000015f: 414e 414c 4f47 444c 2e5a 4432 00  ANALOGDL.ZD2.
0000016c: 5245 5645 5253 4544 2e5a 4432 00  REVERSED.ZD2.
00000179: 484f 4c44 444c 592e 5a44 3200 00  HOLDDLY.ZD2..
00000186: 505f 505f 444c 592e 5a44 3200 00  P_P_DLY.ZD2..
00000193: 4455 414c 4449 4744 2e5a 4432 00  DUALDIGD.ZD2.
000001a0: 5049 5443 4844 4c59 2e5a 4432 00  PITCHDLY.ZD2.
000001ad: 534c 4150 424b 442e 5a44 3200 00  SLAPBKD.ZD2..
000001ba: 4150 414e 444c 592e 5a44 3200 00  APANDLY.ZD2..
000001c7: 5048 4153 4544 4c59 2e5a 4432 00  PHASEDLY.ZD2.
000001d4: 5441 5045 4543 4833 2e5a 4432 00  TAPEECH3.ZD2.
000001e1: 4943 455f 444c 592e 5a44 3200 00  ICE_DLY.ZD2..
000001ee: 534c 5741 544b 444c 2e5a 4432 00  SLWATKDL.ZD2.
000001fb: 534f 4654 4543 484f 2e5a 4432 00  SOFTECHO.ZD2.
00000208: 5350 435f 484f 4c45 2e5a 4432 00  SPC_HOLE.ZD2.
00000215: 414d 4249 454e 4345 2e5a 4432 00  AMBIENCE.ZD2.
00000222: 5041 5254 4943 4c45 2e5a 4432 00  PARTICLE.ZD2.
0000022f: 484f 4c44 5645 5242 2e5a 4432 00  HOLDVERB.ZD2.
0000023c: 5044 4c5f 444c 592e 5a44 3200 00  PDL_DLY.ZD2..
00000249: 4f53 435f 4543 484f 2e5a 4432 00  OSC_ECHO.ZD2.
00000256: 5044 4c5f 524f 542e 5a44 3200 00  PDL_ROT.ZD2..
00000263: 4241 5f47 4551 2e5a 4432 0000 00  BA_GEQ.ZD2...
00000270: 5354 5f42 5f47 4551 2e5a 4432 00  ST_B_GEQ.ZD2.
0000027d: 4241 5353 4452 562e 5a44 3200 00  BASSDRV.ZD2..
0000028a: 4449 5f50 4c55 532e 5a44 3200 00  DI_PLUS.ZD2..
00000297: 4441 524b 5f50 5245 2e5a 4432 00  DARK_PRE.ZD2.
000002a4: 5356 542e 5a44 3200 0000 0000 00  SVT.ZD2......
000002b1: 424d 414e 3130 302e 5a44 3200 00  BMAN100.ZD2..
000002be: 5357 5234 3030 2e5a 4432 0000 00  SWR400.ZD2...
000002cb: 4147 3735 302e 5a44 3200 0000 00  AG750.ZD2....
000002d8: 5445 3430 3053 4d58 2e5a 4432 00  TE400SMX.ZD2.
000002e5: 4143 5f33 3730 2e5a 4432 0000 00  AC_370.ZD2...
000002f2: 4542 5f48 4433 3630 2e5a 4432 00  EB_HD360.ZD2.
000002ff: 4231 354e 2e5a 4432 0000 0000 00  B15N.ZD2.....
0000030c: 5a5f 5359 4e2e 5a44 3200 0000 00  Z_SYN.ZD2....
00000319: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 00  .............

None of these will load on a (G)(B)1(X)Four. Sorry about that. Making a YT to demo it.

Best regards and I will close this as there's nothing more we can do here.