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Implementation plan for the US Research Software Sustainability Institute
http://plan.urssi.us/
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Narrow down scope #40

Closed karthik closed 4 years ago

karthik commented 4 years ago

While The Carpentries, for example, does an excellent job of teaching basic programming and computational & data analytic methods to researchers in a peer-to-peer model, mostly in 2-day courses, URSSI could fill the gap in teaching more in-depth software engineering

URSSI may provide some training in this area, but cannot hope to meet the needs of all US researchers, so better to identify a VERY SMALL niche that URSSI will teach in, and/or focus on the MANY other training initiatives in research institutions, by publishers, by commercial providers, by other grassroots organisations (eg RDA/CODATA summer schools (although these probably aren't on software) and disciplinary activities (eg ELIXIR).

karthik commented 4 years ago

I think URSSI is already doing this and it's not clear to me if Michelle is asking us to communicate this better or actually change our niche. Right now we're saying that The Carpentries have the using research software tools market, the RDA codata summer school has a very similar niche. Ours is quite different and fills a need that does not exist. University courses in SWE are more theoretical and less applied and also inaccessible to domain researchers. We are offering something that doesn't just scratch the surface (a webinar or 2 day event) but aims to go deeper and allow researchers to incorporate these techniques into their own work.

karthik commented 4 years ago

@danielskatz Thoughts? Not sure if Michelle is on GitHub to tag her.

danielskatz commented 4 years ago

I agree with your point. (And I think Michelle is not yet on GitHub)

karthik commented 4 years ago

I finessed this a bit more but don't see further action necessary at this time. I'll close the issue for now, but happy to resurrect at a future stage of the review.