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Straighten out RWTH-PHOENIX-* citations. #89

Closed cleong110 closed 1 week ago

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

There are a number of places where citations or confusions might need to be double-checked.

Search for "PHOENIX" and confirm we're citing the right ones.

See also #70, no idea why I thought koller2015ContinuousSLR was relevant, possibly some other paper cited it incorrectly?

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

For example we have this in SignBERT+

continuous SLR (RWTH-PHOENIX-Weather [@koller2015ContinuousSLR]

In the SignBERT+ paper they cite thus:

For continuous SLR, the evaluation is conducted on two datasets, i.e., RWTH-Phoenix [14] and RWTH-PhoenixT [33]

and 14 is

O. Koller, J. Forster, and H. Ney, “Continuous sign language recognition: Towards large vocabulary statistical recognition systems handling multiple signers,” Computer Vision and Image Understanding (CVIU), vol. 141, pp. 108–125, 2015.

But that's the wrong citation! That citation is not the source of any dataset. It does have analysis...

In this paper, we present extensive results and thorough analysis on, to our knowledge, the currently biggest publicly available corpus of continuous SL (RWTH-PHOENIX-Weather)

and

RWTH-PHOENIX-Weather database 9 signer, 1081 sign vocabulary, 7k sentences

(which is again wrong, the 9 signer version is RWTH-PHOENIX-Weather 2014)

There's also this: image

So which one did SignBERT+ use?

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

SignBERT+ says

For continuous SLR, the evaluation is conducted on two datasets, i.e., RWTH-Phoenix [14] and RWTH-PhoenixT [33]. RWTH-Phoenix [14] is a popular German sign language dataset collected from the weather forecast broadcast. It contains 6,841 samples, with 5,672, 540 and 629 videos for training, validation and testing, respectively.

OK, we can look for those numbers:

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER image

image

RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER 2014 image

RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER 2014 T image

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

So none of the numbers match.

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

Official RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER download site is https://www-i6.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/web/Software/Databases/Signlanguage/details/rwth-phoenix/index.php, which again has no matching numbers image

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

Oh hey, the official RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER 2014 website actually DOES want people to cite the Koller 2015 paper. image

...why??

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

And here's the RWTH-PHOENIX-WEATHER 2014 T official site.

image

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

OK so anyway, if SignBERT is citing the Koller 2015 paper they must be referring to the 2014 version

cleong110 commented 1 week ago

OK so if someone cites/uses

use

@dataset:forster-etal-2012-rwth

use

koller2015ContinuousSLR

NOT

dataset:forster2014extensions

use


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