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NWO mod for Victoria 2
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Syrian Civil War and Possibilities of the collapse of Syria #1158

Closed samwoodzadrot closed 6 years ago

samwoodzadrot commented 6 years ago

I propose to add core provinces for the groups Ahrar al-Sham and Hayat-Tahrir Al-Sham in Syria. (As part of the possibility of Collapse of Syria and Civil War.) In Aleppo and Hama.

For example like Alawite and Druze states.

Links: Ahrar al-Sham - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sham Tahrir al-Sham - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrir_al-Sham

simsulla commented 6 years ago

Both Ahrar al-Sham and Hayat-Tahrir Al-Sham are salafi islamist groups (according to the wiki articles given), and as political movement it is represented as salafism, and a theocratic government of Syria, or as ISIS in case of a state break up. For Druze and Alawite please provide references that there today are significant support for independent states. Both would be one province cores, and works poorly as a game war mechanics perspective.

Btw, the Assad regime is dominated by Alawites - they are Syria (depending on government type).

samwoodzadrot commented 6 years ago

I understand, but I think it really possible to happen. I don't think that this will happen, but it is possible. But of course, I understand that this is your vision and mod.

arandomperson5000 commented 6 years ago

Actually there is a Syrian collapse scenario already in NWO to summarise it currently consists of the Alawite state and Jabal al Durze breaking away from Syria and a massive militancy increase in Syria to represent the chaotic aftermath of a rebel victory in the Syrian Civil in a similar way to how Afghanistan pretty much collapsed into warlordism after the Mujahideen had overthrown Najibullah's government in 1992 following the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989.

As for Ahrar al-Sham and Hayat-Tahrir Al-Sham I won't be adding them as countries as they are pretty much military units rather than any form of government of political party. There is already a unique Islamist flag and several Islamist political parties for the Syrian rebel government.

arandomperson5000 commented 6 years ago

Closing issue since Jabal al Druze and the Alawite State are already in NWO and that Ahrar al-Sham and Hayat-Tahrir Al-Sham are military units.