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Unclear calculation of two paladins #3879

Closed WitcherHammer closed 7 years ago

WitcherHammer commented 7 years ago

Simulationcraft Version: 720-02 Here is a profiles of two paladins. They are similar in all things exept gear and respectively stats. Paladin "Serberen" have better stats and gear but his DPS is lower.... Is it a wrong calculation?

paladin="Serberen" origin="https://eu.api.battle.net/wow/character/darksorrow/Serberen/advanced" thumbnail="http://eu.battle.net/static-render/eu/darksorrow/8/101064968-avatar.jpg" level=110 race=human role=attack position=back professions=engineering=784/alchemy=800 talents=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#bb!0101101 artifact=2:0:0:0:0:40:1:41:4:42:4:43:4:44:4:47:4:49:1:50:5:51:4:52:4:53:4:54:1:350:1:351:1:352:1:353:1:1118:1:1275:1:1561:4:1562:1:1563:1:1564:8:1647:1 spec=retribution

head=cruel_gladiators_scaled_helm,ilevel=915,stats=640armor_2496str_3744sta_874crit_874mastery,gems=100haste neck=radiant_string_of_scorpid_eyes,ilevel=920,stats=2206sta_1041crit_2271haste,gems=150crit shoulders=gravedredged_pauldrons,ilevel=915,stats=591armor_1872str_2808sta_796crit_515vers back=radiant_lightbringer_cape,ilevel=940,stats=179armor_1772str_2658sta_653haste_423vers,gems=200str,enchant=200str chest=crackling_overcharge_chestguard,ilevel=930,stats=815armor_2870str_4305sta_1122crit_726vers wrists=cruel_gladiators_scaled_wristplates,ilevel=925,stats=352armor_1541str_2311sta_510haste_510vers hands=cruel_gladiators_scaled_gauntlets,ilevel=915,stats=493armor_1872str_2808sta_562haste_749vers waist=chain_of_thrayn,ilevel=970,stats=501armor_3124str_4687sta_1035haste_575crit legs=cruel_gladiators_scaled_legguards,ilevel=925,stats=705armor_2739str_4109sta_778crit_1037vers feet=ferocious_gladiators_scaled_sabatons,ilevel=910,stats=536armor_1786str_2680sta_735crit_551vers finger1=liadrins_fury_unleashed,ilevel=970,stats=3515sta_2563crit_1922haste,gems=150crit,enchant=200vers finger2=cruel_gladiators_ring,ilevel=925,stats=2311sta_1366crit_2049vers,enchant=200vers trinket1=kiljaedens_burning_wish,ilevel=940,stats=2994str_456crit_456vers_456haste trinket2=cruel_gladiators_insignia_of_victory,ilevel=925,stats=1296vers_4212str main_hand=ashbringer,id=120978,bonus_id=737,gem_id=144520/144515/144520/0,relic_id=3568:3164:3337/3568:3174:3337/3568:3174:3337/0

Gear Summary

gear_ilvl=931.13

gear_strength=30887

gear_stamina=42956

gear_crit_rating=11589

gear_haste_rating=7509

gear_mastery_rating=1818

gear_versatility_rating=8712

gear_armor=4812

paladin="Shayisback" origin="https://eu.api.battle.net/wow/character/aegwynn/Shayisback/advanced" thumbnail="http://eu.battle.net/static-render/eu/aegwynn/172/143111596-avatar.jpg" level=110 race=blood_elf role=attack position=back professions=engineering=800 talents=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#bb!0101101 artifact=2:0:0:0:0:40:1:41:4:42:4:43:4:44:4:47:4:49:1:50:5:51:4:52:4:53:4:54:1:350:1:351:1:352:1:353:1:1118:1:1275:1:1561:4:1562:1:1563:1:1564:8:1647:1 spec=retribution

head=cruel_gladiators_scaled_helm,id=144913,bonus_id=3568/1709/1522/3337 neck=cruel_gladiators_pendant,id=144903,bonus_id=3568/1808/1512/3336,gems=150haste,enchant=mark_of_the_hidden_satyr shoulders=cruel_gladiators_scaled_shoulders,id=144917,bonus_id=3568/1710/1517/3336 back=cruel_gladiators_greatcloak_of_faith,id=144793,bonus_id=3568/1706/1527/3337,enchant=200str chest=inferno_breastplate,id=134503,bonus_id=3536/1582/3337 shirt=precious_ribbon,id=52019 tabard=tabard_of_the_lightbringer,id=52252 wrists=cruel_gladiators_scaled_wristplates,id=144921,bonus_id=3568/1716/1517/3336 hands=ferocious_gladiators_scaled_gauntlets,id=145506,bonus_id=3567/1695/1552/3337 waist=chain_of_thrayn,id=137086,bonus_id=1811/3570,addon=nitro_boosts legs=cruel_gladiators_scaled_legguards,id=144915,bonus_id=3568/1681/1527/3337 feet=cruel_gladiators_scaled_sabatons,id=144909,bonus_id=3568/1681/1517/3336 finger1=liadrins_fury_unleashed,id=137048,bonus_id=1811/3570,gems=150haste,enchant=200haste finger2=ferocious_gladiators_ring,id=145781,bonus_id=3567/1808/1527/3336,gems=150haste,enchant=200haste trinket1=cruel_gladiators_insignia_of_victory,id=144993,bonus_id=3568/1808/1527/3337,gems=200str trinket2=cruel_gladiators_accolade_of_victory,id=144990,bonus_id=3568/603/1527/3337 main_hand=ashbringer,id=120978,bonus_id=737,gem_id=144520/144515/144520/0,relic_id=3568:3164:3337/3568:3174:3337/3568:3174:3337/0

Gear Summary

gear_ilvl=913.80

gear_strength=24935

gear_stamina=39193

gear_crit_rating=7921

gear_haste_rating=7947

gear_mastery_rating=1295

gear_versatility_rating=9141

gear_armor=4706

AlexanderKenny commented 7 years ago

Hard to say without the report but I would suspect this comes down to you being on a 7.2 client. Grab a 7.2.5 nightly build and see if the issue persists.

WitcherHammer commented 7 years ago

Some problems were solved. Especially with identification id and bonus id of items (one time SimCraft showed me that Ashbringer have only 842 ilevel, but in real it have 943).

navv1234 commented 7 years ago

Serberen is missing item ids on all items but the artifact. This means that things like the two legendary items are currently not doing what they are supposed to be doing. Additionally, the Kiljaeden's Burning Wish is doing nothing.

WitcherHammer commented 7 years ago

Yes, but it's not the problem. the Kiljaeden's Burning Wish active ability give only <=1% of damage..... With the 725-01 they have similar damage, but stats of Serberen is better......

navv1234 commented 7 years ago

Stats are better yes, but Serberen for all intents and purposes does not have the benefits of two legendary item effects, nor the trinket effect.

WitcherHammer commented 7 years ago

Few days ago I've changed his trinkets and legendary items with the help of id, they dont give such great difference. Serberen have +20% of main stat Strength and a lot of crit.... and SimCraft showed that his dmg.....lower.

navv1234 commented 7 years ago

Simply enabling the legendary effects, and fixing Serberen's non-legendary trinket to a proc results in Serberen doing significantly more dps in the default setup of Simulationcraft.