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AMC module with Xilinx RF-SoC and two analog front-end mezzanines for SDR and quantum applications
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AFE Connector #3

Open tprzywoz opened 4 years ago

tprzywoz commented 4 years ago

Will the connectors used on devkit be sufficient or do we want something with higher bandwidth? https://www.samtec.com/products/lpaf-40-03.0-s-08-2-k-tr

gkasprow commented 4 years ago

We can use:

gkasprow commented 4 years ago

Isn't the footprint (pitch) for both connector types compatible?

tprzywoz commented 4 years ago

Isn't the footprint (pitch) for both connector types compatible?

They have only different NPTH (2) and LPAF (Xilinx devkit one) has max 8 rows (not 10 like ASP on Sayma RTM). LPAF has slightly better high speed performance (based on a 3dB insertion loss) - 18.5 GHz vs 18 GHz of ASP.

tprzywoz commented 3 years ago

After discussion with @gkasprow we are considering changing "the AFE standard" to Xilinx ZCU111 devkit one. In the current version there is copied Sayma solution:

2 x SAMTEC_ASP-134488-01 (40 x 10) connectors. Each has connections for:

Potentiall new "Devkit standard": 2 x LPAF-40-030-S-08-2-K-TR (40 x 8) "ADC connector":

"DAC connector":

First of all, that change will reduce the number of power rails. Currently, it makes a problem with component placement: image

Thanks to lack of +/-12V +/- 6V power regulators and with AFE depth reduction to 76.5 mm (like FMC) we can fit all power regulators without adding extra PCB modules (as a solution to increase PCB area). Other advantages are better signal integrity (thanks to shorter traces and better isolation of analog part of PCB) and well-known connectors dedicated to RFMC (instead of FMC).

Disadvantages:

gkasprow commented 3 years ago

But we will be able to plug the Xilinx mezzanines to our board and our mezzanines to XIlinx devkit because connector distance would be the same. This is useful test/characterization purposes. Of course we won't be able to insert them to the AMC slot, but it's not a big issue.

gkasprow commented 3 years ago

Moreover, we didn't characterize the Sayma connectors (FMC ones) in such a high-frequency range. It's safer to stick with Xilinx devkit layout and connectors because it was already proven to work.