Open gkasprow opened 1 year ago
What is the intended use-case for such an amplifier? If this is supposed to be a "convenient amplifier for general use" then I think requirements are a bit different to applications that require high amplitude stability of the RF chain.
In our application of generating RF field for anti-matter experiments, it's sufficient. What would you change to make it suitable for your use case?
If you want to do something really fast and simple, you could use 8x ZX60-100VH+ in parallel. I've been very happy using this for trap drive. We only need 1W for our trap right now, but anticipating needing more in future we built a 4x version to get to 4W - worked well on the bench.
@dtcallcock using the quadrature hybrid "add amplifier outputs" trick?
Actually just sandwiched them between a pair of these. They can take 3W internal dissipation so amp failure should be survivable. Makes for a compact mechanical arrangement too - just 8 SMA I-pieces to connect it all together.
The issue with these amp bricks is also their availability. I'd need 10 of them at least to get 40dBm at 1dB Compression. I can, of course, DYI sth, but I'd prefer to put some effort and make module which works for other use cases. I'm not in a hurry.
In our application of generating RF field for anti-matter experiments, it's sufficient. What would you change to make it suitable for your use case?
In my usecase we cared about fractional gain stability at <10^-5. Which means stable voltage references and the ability to heatsink everything well in a temeprature stabilised box. This porbably would make things needlessly complicated for a general purpose design (as this seems to be).
I asked physicists, and they said the higher the stability, the better. Let's see what we can achieve without complicating things much.
@pathfinder49 Are you using some active RF amplitude stabilisation system?
The setup I used has a passive fractional rms amplitude deviation $<2\times10^{-5}$ over 20 minutes. Careful temperature stabilisation and reducing cabling length were quite important for this. (Though the temperature stability may have been over engineered in my setup.) I don't think a rackmount EEM card would be a good fit for this kind of application.
The stable RF signal was amplified using an API, BXMP1042 (powered by Wenzel, LNVR-24-15-5-1). Both the amplifier and its supply were temperature stabilised.
Agreed that most ion trap QIP experiments would not want the trap rf sourced from an EEM card.
I'd need 10 of them at least to get 40dBm at 1dB Compression.
Yeah, TBF this makes a lot more sense at 1-4W. 10W is just not a great place to be for your trap drive but I guess they have some giant trap.
yep, it's quite big
We need to build a 10MHz amplifier delivering 10W of power to drive the RF resonator, which will boost it to 500V or so. The amplifier will be 6HP wide and work with EEM and DI/OT. The initial specification:
Would you have any thoughts to share about it?