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Sinara Poster #59

Open dtcallcock opened 3 years ago

dtcallcock commented 3 years ago

Final full resolution poster (dropbox) from IEEE International Conference on Quantum Computing and Engineering (QCE20).

Low resolution version (GitHub)

Creating an issue to track mistakes and additions as people spot them. Hopefully this poster can live on to go to other conferences and be a useful resource to give people new to Sinara until there is a real paper.

Things to fix for next time:

dtcallcock commented 3 years ago
sbourdeauducq commented 3 years ago

Yes, the logos on the poster should be updated. https://m-labs.hk/experiment-control/funding/ would be a good reference. MIT seems to have aggressive trademark lawyers and probably their logo should not be on the poster.

dtcallcock commented 2 years ago

QCE21 poster deadline is Aug 2. Considering taking this again this year. Anyone else going?

dtcallcock commented 2 years ago

EQTC deadline is also Aug 2. I will not attend as middle-of-the-night virtual conferences aren't my thing but could be a good opportunity to promote Sinara.

dhslichter commented 2 years ago

I will probably attend virtual Quantum Week, would be game to help present a poster if desired.

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

I will talk with my students :)

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

OK, Dorota (our student) already submitted an abstract related to Sinara. Once she comes back from the holidays she will prepare the poster and consult it with the community.

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

Btw, here is one SInara related paper https://indico.cern.ch/event/981823/contributions/4295432/attachments/2250078/3816845/poster_445.pdf

sbourdeauducq commented 2 years ago

Why did you move to the Apex PA95 ICs? In addition to being expensive, they definitely do not have 1MHz bandwidth as advertised on the poster.

dtcallcock commented 2 years ago

she will prepare the poster and consult it with the community.

Great! The poster linked above was made in Adobe Illustrator so she can load the pdf in that and edit or copy things from it should she want to.

jordens commented 2 years ago

I got contacted regarding a ARTIQ/Sinara talk at the "Advancing the performance of engineered trapped-ion quantum systems" workshop. I'd like some suggestions and nominations/volunteers for that.

dhslichter commented 2 years ago

@jordens some of the ARTIQ day presenters, perhaps?

DorotaNowicka commented 2 years ago

Hi everyone! In agreement with Greg Kasprowicz, I submitted a poster about Sayma and Phaser to the QCE21: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v5iy0ttmifsusk/posterQCE21v2.pdf?dl=0 The deadline for all updates is Sep 6. I will be grateful for any comments and suggestions, especially please make sure that all authors are listed.

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

@DorotaNowicka we have much better photos of Sayma AWG. Please ask @marmeladapk about them.

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

Why did you move to the Apex PA95 ICs? In addition to being expensive, they definitely do not have 1MHz bandwidth as advertised on the poster.

@sbourdeauducq well, they have a small signal BW of 1MHz, I measured it personally. To obtain 1MHz you need a pre-driver that generates +/-20V due to GBP limitation. Then you are limited by SR. I moved to Apex because the discrete amplifier had serious issues and was unable to work stable for more than one channel due to very poor PSRR (<0dB). To make them work you need a dedicated pair of HV LDOs for every channel! The APEX chips are not that expensive if you buy directly at the source.

dtcallcock commented 2 years ago

Thanks @DorotaNowicka. I made comments in Dropbox.

I think one thing that's missing is a brief higher-level discussion of why there are two SAWG cards. I think the form factor is a big part of it and is unclear on the poster at the moment. uTCA provides more board space, cooling, power, management, and data bandwidth, but comes with a big complexity and cost overhead.

sbourdeauducq commented 2 years ago

they have a small signal BW of 1MHz, I measured it personally. To obtain 1MHz you need a pre-driver that generates +/-20V due to GBP limitation. Then you are limited by SR.

By just saying "bandwidth" and "+/- 200V range" it makes it sound like you could have a 400Vpp sine wave output at, say, 10Hz and then by increasing the input frequency to 1MHz and keeping the input amplitude constant you'd have a 280Vpp (3dB) sine wave output. This is not what the Apex chip does. According to your own test, instead you get 13Vpp and a lot of distortion: image

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

@sbourdeauducq this is exactly how BW in opamps is defined. Take any opamp datasheet and see how it's defined. I didn't write "full power" bandwidth. The amp full power BW is limited both by SR and small-signal BW. SR is limited by the load capacitance. So I will simply add SR parameter . The HV amp module has ability to replace amps with ones having higher SR and much higher power BW. One would need to provide external HV due to higher Iq

gkasprow commented 2 years ago

I updated the wiki

DorotaNowicka commented 2 years ago

Thanks for the comments @dtcallcock . I made all the corrections (if I missed any, let me know, please!): https://www.dropbox.com/s/hs63bxkq5hq8opq/posterQCE21v3.pdf?dl=0 The only thing I haven't changed is JESB204B and JESD204B in Sayma clock generation block, now it's on a poster like on the Wiki page. Is it wrong?

marmeladapk commented 2 years ago

@DorotaNowicka hey, I added some comments to the second version.

gkasprow commented 9 months ago

ECTI23 poster ECTI_DIOT_RC8.pdf