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4-channel Microwave synthesiser
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VCXO #11

Closed hartytp closed 3 years ago

hartytp commented 4 years ago

The current XO is a crystek CCHD-950 costing ~£20 in singles

The a footprint-compatible VCXO part is CVHD-950. This is about the same cost (actually, very slightly cheaper) and has decent availability.

I'm happy to keep the XO as the default population option, but can we have either a variant with the VCXO or just an annotation mentioning that this is a suitable alternative part?

I'd like to break the tuning pin out to an MMCX. Probably via a difference amplifier (to remove ground small levels of common-mode noise), offset addition and attenuation to match +-10V to the VCXO's range. Then probably an RC filter to kill any high-frequency noise. I'll sketch out a suggestion for this design at some point when I have time.

hartytp commented 4 years ago

@cjbe FYI this is the VCO noise spec image

jordens commented 4 years ago

I think we already went for the tunable part in Urukul and mid-pointed tuning input.

hartytp commented 4 years ago

For reference, the PLL noise model is:

VCO noise is

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hartytp commented 4 years ago

If that's actually an issue and we ever made a mezzanine, we could consider using e.g. an HMC830 which has ~10dB lower noise, but I don't really think it's a problem. tl;dr it looks like this will work nicely!

hartytp commented 4 years ago

FWIW, the HMC830 specs are

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So 3dB better for the in-band noise floor (although, note that the PFD can only hit 125MHz for integer-N mode)

I believe the flicker noise floor is normalized to 1Hz offset, so equivalent to 228 at 10kHz. i.e. approx 7dB better than the ADF PLL. So, not a huge difference between the two TBH.

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The ADF VCO noise actually looks a little better.

So tl;dr either part is probably fine.

gkasprow commented 3 years ago

I copied the schematic from Urukul obraz