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restricting the choice of journals #4

Closed rossmounce closed 5 years ago

rossmounce commented 5 years ago

"The success of OA publishing however has meant that government-provided funds can often no longer cover all APCs and UK institutions are beginning to restrict the choice of journals for which APCs will be paid."

I think this point needs to be fleshed out a bit AND our actual stance on it.

I for instance support that institutions are restricting journals for which APCs will be paid to -- some are outrageously priced and thus they are right to do this. They are protecting authors, funders, institutions and taxpayers from exploitation by publishers setting whatever price they want for APCs. Not paying outrageously high APCs, and not paying hybrid APCs that do nothing to further the overall cause of OA is a good thing.

(I'm just not sure that came through in the short quote)

Could we say immediately after (to balance it up).

"We understand and are supportive of why some institutions do not allow APCs to be paid for hybridOA, or for particularly expensively priced OA journals - some publishing options are simply exploitative of the system and authors may need protection from them."

rossmounce commented 5 years ago

My added bit in context and mildly improved...

The success of OA publishing however has meant that government-provided funds can often no longer cover all APCs and UK institutions are beginning to restrict the choice of journals for which APCs will be paid-to in order to best optimise the allocation of limited financial resources. We understand and are supportive of institutions that do not allow APCs to be paid for hybrid-OA, or for particularly expensively priced OA journals - some publishing options are simply exploitative of the system and authors may need protection from them.

rossmounce commented 5 years ago

(essentially, without this edit, I fear the manuscript could be selectively quoted as support for those that view OA as impinging on "academic freedom" et cetera et cetera. We've got to make it clear that not all OA is 'good' and that if funders or institutions want to protect authors & taxpayers from exploitation then in principle at least that is fine by us)

sje30 commented 5 years ago

agree, done.