Submit ESA Symposium Proposal

[skmorgane]

Status: Convening 8/25 to discuss topics

• [x] Brainstorm topics
• [x] Brainstorm speakers
• [x] Invite speakers
• [x] Write proposal
• [x] Submit proposal 9/14

[skmorgane]

Emailed KD and CB on 8/18. We will touch base on 8/25 with symposium ideas

[cbahlai]

Did I miss a meeting on Friday? if so, I apologize. If not, I'm just going to start riffing off symposium topic suggestions here.

Contemporary applications of paleo methods Abrupt changes in ecosystems, then and now

[skmorgane]

No, you didn't. I just was overly optimistic what I was going to be capable of the 1st week of school!

I was thinking something about abrupt changes in ecosystems as well. I think Jacquelyn's symposium will probably cover trying to bring together paleo and contemporary approaches/perspectives, but I don't think from my brief interaction with her that rapid shifts will be a focus. It's something I would definitely be interested in. I'm not sure Kendi is on Github yet. Let me ping her tonight or tomorrow and see if we can get a dialog going on this here. Hope your first week is less chaotic than mine!

[cbahlai]

It's been interesting! I still don't have a computer or a phone, but EHS has given me the go-ahead on the plans to change the space uses in my lab, so that's good!

Regime shifts, tipping points, abrupt changes, state changes....I'm just typing words at this point. I also had an idea for some future work, based around the question "how long do we have to watch a system to be able to say something about its trajectory"? and I'd love to get more going in this area, but that idea might not be mature enough to build a symposium.

[skmorgane]

I started playing around with ideas about extreme events, then realized one of the things that might be cool is to bring together all the different groups studying rapid reorganization events (by whatever name they like to call them:Regime shifts, tipping points, abrupt changes, state changes, extreme events) to facilitate discussions across these different groups?

I like the idea of how long do we have to watch a system to be able to say something about its trajectory. I know a few groups that are starting to toy with issues in this space. I'm not sure any are far enough along, but it's never too soon to start planning 2019's symposium idea (especially since the symposium deadline pops up so soon after the annual meeting). I think this might be a great topic for the following year. Groups I've talked to or seen talks touching on this : Mary O'Connor, the McGill/Dornelas/Magurran/Gotelli conglomerate, the Ernest/White group (we're working on how do you quantify a trajectory).

[cbahlai]

Ooh, I love Rapid Reorganization Events- the idea of getting people in a dialogue about what this means across systems, why they use a particular terminology in their system- this is exciting.

We should talk more about this trajectory idea too! I have a project that's 100% pure data munging- essentially taking many time series and regressing them over different time intervals to determine what, if anything, can be said about the broader trends from short trends, and how that varies with system, observation type, starting point, and interval of observation.

[skmorgane]

Having had time to mull the rapid reorganizations events idea for a while, I still really like it. Kendi and Sarah, what do you think?

Below is a brainstorm on the different areas that think about rapid organization events, feel free to add/modify/comment: 1: Regime shifts (both external and internally caused) (Thinking the Carpenter/Scheffer style and the Williams/Jackson style)

2. Black swans? (this is apopulation perspective)
3. Disturbance frameworks?
4. Tipping points/alternative stable states
5. Extreme events (ala Mindy Smith, etc)

[cbahlai]

For an ignite title: "Really rapid perspectives on rapid reorganization events: regime shifts and the rest"?

I'm here all week, folks.

[cbahlai]

Really rapid recitations on rapid reorganization events: regime shifts and the rest.

[skmorgane]

Ha! I love the alliteration. This is a less fun version: Rapid reorganization events: rapid recitations on regime shifts, extreme events and related concepts

Do you think we should email the others with this? I'm not sure they're seeing our conversation...

[cbahlai]

I think it is just us in here- they might not be getting notifications!

[scelmendorf]

Hi! I'm here, just spacey. I like the regime shift and trying to disentangle lt-trends from short-term data. Just throwing out some brainstorms: The signal and the noise - detecting regime shifts from long-term data? or something along those lines?

[skmorgane]

OMG, how is it already November! The proposal for an Ignite (apparently now called Inspire). Session is due on 11/16. I know Kendi isn't really watching this space, so I'll send an email with my current thoughts and to start brainstorming people to invite (assuming we're still planning on doing this).

[kfdavies]

Ugh, I feel so bad for missing all of this! I now have notifications turned on (what an idiot I am).

I'm really interested in the idea of trying to quantify a trajectory -- would love to hear about what you are doing (both Morgan and Christie's data munging project, too).

[skmorgane]

Proposal was submitted and accepted. This issue is done.