soegaard
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8 years ago Thanks!
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soegaard
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8 years ago Thanks!
danprager
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8 years ago Thank-you!
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soegaard
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8 years ago Hi Daniel,
I have just added another Bootstrap example:
https://github.com/soegaard/urlang/blob/master/urlang-examples/parabola/parabola.rkt
This time without ractive, but using @-syntax to construct the html.
/Jens Axel
2016-03-16 19:41 GMT+01:00 Daniel Prager notifications@github.com:
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danprager
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8 years ago Hi Jens
Nice!
It's not clear to me which is the best html syntax to use is, so probably best to leave it orthogonal for now.
One of the challenges (when using ractive or similar) is how to include the {{mustasche} syntax so that it has semantic meaning, rather than just treating it as a string.
For example, in ractive it is legitimate to include expressions like {{counter + 1}}, but in our context it would be preferable to be able to specify {{(+ counter 1)}} and have Urlang performa an interpretation.Similary {{#section}} ... {{/section}} would be better done as (#section ...) or some-such.
Nice to see a bit of positive response on the mailing list!
Cheers
Dan
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Hi Daniel,
I have just added another Bootstrap example:
https://github.com/soegaard/urlang/blob/master/urlang-examples/parabola/parabola.rkt
This time without ractive, but using @-syntax to construct the html.
/Jens Axel
2016-03-16 19:41 GMT+01:00 Daniel Prager notifications@github.com:
Thank-you!
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soegaard
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8 years ago Hi Daniel,
(Btw: I responded to the wrong email thread).
The problem that moustache templates have with abstractions leaking is also present when used from JavaScript. Researching how other JavaScript libraries do made me discover MonkBerry:
https://github.com/monkberry/monkberry
The idea is to compile the template at the server and produce JavaScript code that generates html on the client. Now since Urlang allows macros one possible solution would be to implement "MonkBerry" as a macro. The MonkBerry readme shows some examples of what the expansion of a template looks like. Implementing a subset of moustache as an urlang macros looks therefore as a realistic project - but unfortunately I do't see myself having much time for hacking on this for while. Maybe you want to try?
However I see there are many template libraries in JavaScript, so there might be other, better solutions.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/JavaScript_templates
/Jens Axel
danprager
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8 years ago Hi Jens
I'm very happy to explore other libraries and approaches as my time allows (it's going to be a bit sporadic).
I think I'd need a bit of guidance about how to hack together Urlang macros to open up a subset of mustache. Could you outline what you have in mind?
But maybe it's a bit premature to go down the road of more tightly integrating mustache: I think for my next experiment I'll try porting this example from mithril.js -- https://lhorie.github.io/mithril/getting-started.html -- which takes a non-template-based approach, and might turn out to be a better fit.
Cheers
Dan
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Jens Axel Søgaard < notifications@github.com> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
(Btw: I responded to the wrong email thread).
The problem that moustache templates have with abstractions leaking is also present when used from JavaScript. Researching how other JavaScript libraries do made me discover MonkBerry:
https://github.com/monkberry/monkberry
The idea is to compile the template at the server and produce JavaScript code that generates html on the client. Now since Urlang allows macros one possible solution would be to implement "MonkBerry" as a macro. The MonkBerry readme shows some examples of what the expansion of a template looks like. Implementing a subset of moustache as an urlang macros looks therefore as a realistic project - but unfortunately I do't see myself having much time for hacking on this for while. Maybe you want to try?
However I see there are many template libraries in JavaScript, so there might be other, better solutions.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/JavaScript_templates
/Jens Axel
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Also included the html output and amended the READ.me file.