nealhaddaway
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2 years ago Hey Charles! Great to hear from you! What's the Cochrane review you mention here? I'm a little confused, but possibly because I've got my head in about 8 ongoing hackathon projects right now... so I'm not sure how much help I would be, I'm afraid...
From: Charles T. Gray @.> Sent: 11 April 2022 16:29 To: softloud/spunk @.> Cc: nealhaddaway @.>; Mention @.> Subject: [softloud/spunk] impromptu eshackathon (Cochrane submission) or whenever (living analysis) (Issue #8)
heya evisynth peeps, @DrMattGhttps://github.com/DrMattG, @nealhaddawayhttps://github.com/nealhaddaway, @mjwestgatehttps://github.com/mjwestgate, @befriendabacteriumhttps://github.com/befriendabacterium, @dmphillippohttps://github.com/dmphillippo and opensci peeps, @yochannahhttps://github.com/yochannah, @debruinehttps://github.com/debruine, @steelehttps://github.com/steele (Lisa and James have rockstar handles) thought you might be interested in trying out living analysis collaboration workflows with me. I can email you a link to the manuscript whenever you decide to get involved.
I've put together first thoughts on workflow herehttps://softloud.github.io/spunk/extending.html.
Whenever suits.
arse backwards
Things are moving fast with data scaling up. Traditional diagnostic methods for statistics are less useful at combinatorially-many comparisons. And reproducibility is widely viewed as a end of production component.
I am sorry to not give you more time to be part of this Cochrane review. This is why I am going to write in the methods section about why I think making an analysis patchable and provide shortcuts for common analyses in the discipline, that this should be done before implementing more advanced models. This is a phase one of an analysis, setting it up so that it's really easy to get help from the community, because science is better when collaborative.
An Australian might say implementing reproducibility and living analysis after the advanced models is done is arse backwards. Collaborative data science brings it's own challenges, but will absolutely help with the advanced algorithms.
Cochrane submission hackathon
I am pushing hard to wrap my component of the writing on the manuscript right now, I'm very behind because anxiety problems on top of the methodological concerns.
But I imagine some work will be done by the postdoc leading the paper, and the PI. So, if you see an issue you can do easily right now, your name will go into the Cochrane submission. And hey, there'll be revisions, too, most likely. So there'll be some weeks before final submission, surely. I'll update when I know more.
But also, whenever
It is a living analysis, however, and I don't see why major extensions aren't publishable. Makes it more useful, the peeps would want to know. I'm in this project to tinker with minimal workflows for this kind of thing, so publishing is a secondary concern for me. Happy to work on big and small aspects of this.
where has Charles been?
Long time mostly I've been quiet on the research front for a while. Feels like years since I've been able to think clearly. This happened in my twenties, but not for such a prolonged time since. I stopped speaking to everyone for about six months, trauma-induced anxiety at such a deafening roar. Suffice to say Mr Robothttps://youtu.be/N6HGuJC--rk is basically porn for me at the moment.
I moved to Copenhagen for a job at a start up a few weeks ago, but they are okay with me investing time in this project. Life is better than ever here. I finally was in a good enough place to get some science done on spunk::, a side project I've had going for about a year.
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heya evisynth peeps, @drmattg, @nealhaddaway, @mjwestgate, @befriendabacterium, @dmphillippo and opensci peeps, @yochannah, @ljcolling, @debruine, @steele (Lisa and James have rockstar handles) thought you might be interested in trying out living analysis collaboration workflows with me. I can email you a link to the manuscript whenever you decide to get involved.
I've put together first thoughts on workflow here.
Whenever suits.
arse backwards
Things are moving fast with data scaling up. Traditional diagnostic methods for statistics are less useful at combinatorially-many comparisons. And reproducibility is widely viewed as a end of production component. I was given free rein on this project, and because of that, I think I did better science than if I had attempted to implement fancy models. I followed the reasoning and guidance I'd been given before, but this was a road to frustration. Decided to go in a different direction, seeing as PI is letting me take the lead on this. Because there is so little time to get an analysis done in evidence synthesis. This seems more useful for the time allocated, if it makes it easy for others to also volunteer their time.
I am sorry to not give you more time to be part of this Cochrane review. This is why I am going to (wait, no, I wrote that bit already, almost done with draft) write in the methods section about why I think making an analysis patchable and provide shortcuts for common analyses in the discipline, that this should be done before implementing more advanced models. This is a phase one of an analysis, setting it up so that it's really easy to get help from the community, because science is better when collaborative.
An Australian might say implementing reproducibility and living analysis after the advanced models is done is arse backwards. Collaborative data science brings it's own challenges, but will absolutely help with the advanced algorithms.
Cochrane submission hackathon
I am pushing hard to wrap my component of the writing on the manuscript right now, I'm very behind because anxiety problems on top of the methodological concerns.
But I imagine some work will be done by the postdoc leading the paper, and the PI. So, if you see an issue you can do easily right now, your name will go into the Cochrane submission. And hey, there'll be revisions, too, most likely. So there'll be some weeks before final submission, surely. I'll update when I know more.
But also, whenever
It is a living analysis, however, and I don't see why major extensions aren't publishable. Makes it more useful, the peeps would want to know. I'm in this project to tinker with minimal workflows for this kind of thing, so publishing is a secondary concern for me. Happy to work on big and small aspects of this.
where has Charles been?
Long time mostly I've been quiet on the research front for a while. Feels like years since I've been able to think clearly. This happened in my twenties, but not for such a prolonged time since. I stopped speaking to everyone for about six months, trauma-induced anxiety at such a deafening roar. Suffice to say Mr Robot is basically porn for me at the moment.
I moved to Copenhagen for a job at a start up a few weeks ago, but they are okay with me investing a little time in this project. Life is better than ever here. I finally was in a good enough place to get some science done on
spunk::, a side project I've had going (anxiety-induced procrastination) for about a year. PI has been so amazing and understanding every step of the way. I couldn't let a grrl down, or her postdoc.