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What server-based notification support is required? #49

Open acoburn opened 5 years ago

acoburn commented 5 years ago

Section 3.4 of the Solid specification states that a client MUST conform to the LDN specification. Are there any server-specific requirements for notifications? For example: WebSockets, which involves both client and server. And is server-to-server notification support within the scope of the Solid specification?

RubenVerborgh commented 5 years ago

Note that these sentences are marked as drafts; their sole purpose is to create an entry in the References section. The statement in itself is not necessarily meaningful yet.

I indeed expect there to be server requirements for some types of notifications (so the main heading needs an update), but not specially for LDN (which is already covered by LDP).

dmitrizagidulin commented 5 years ago

Related issues:

csarven commented 5 years ago

Noting here that LDN is also used in ActivityPub's server-to-server interactions: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#server-to-server-interactions . Besides an AP server having some similarities to an LDP server ie. counting as potential implementation experiences, I'm not aware of Solid/LDP-based implementations with server-server notifications.

Related: more documentation on how LDN may be interoperably combined with other specs: https://csarven.ca/linked-research-decentralised-web#interoperability-across-specifications

I think server-server notifications is within the scope of Solid. There is some unofficial agreement - through conversations, e.g., involving https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/36 - that it should be part of Solid.

With the exception of attending issues on WebSockets in this repo, I would suggest to factor in developments from the Solid Notifications Panel: https://github.com/solid/notifications-panel - starting with use cases and class of activities, as well as having rough implementations for some guidance.

justinwb commented 5 years ago

Just want to raise here that I think a publish/subscribe mechanism is essential. @csarven would love to find a bit of time to discuss this.