Add solid:objectivePronoun, solid:possessivePronoun, solid:subjectPronoun

[VirginiaBalseiro]

Strings for a person's preferred objective, subject, and possessive pronouns.

[TallTed]

Avoid preferred. These are simply the person's pronouns.

I might suggest solid:userObjectPronoun, solid:userRelativePronoun, solid:userSubjectPronoun.

[VirginiaBalseiro]

^ that sounds good to me!

[TallTed]

(I suggest also changing the title of this issue, as there's no need to preserve the property names that will cause distress in some readers ... and even though the old title will remain visible, this change shows that we're moving in the right direction.)

[VirginiaBalseiro]

Some considerations though: SolidOS uses preferred for pronouns: https://github.com/SolidOS/solid-panes/blob/main/src/profile/profileFormText.ttl#L43

PodBrowser's shapes (just documentation at the moment, but possibly will be used in the future) also uses preferred. https://github.com/inrupt/pod-browser/blob/main/shapes/profile/person.shex

I can imagine preferred can be useful when an agent has more than one set of pronouns (i.e. she/her/hers, they/their/theirs).

I'd love to hear other opinions on this.

[jeff-zucker]

My understanding from people who are involved in gender issues is that "preferred pronouns" has connotations of calling gender a chosen "lifestyle" rather than an in-born part of someone's identity. So just "pronouns".

[ThisIsMissEm]

Yeah, they're just pronouns, perhaps also avoid the "object" vocab here too though, people aren't "objects".. though I'm not sure what would be clearer

[VirginiaBalseiro]

Re: object, it refers to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_pronoun

[ThisIsMissEm]

Yeah, wax just reading that, perhaps use "objectivePronoun" or "obliquePronoun" instead

[ThisIsMissEm]

Also, you've all these:

• Subject (subjectivePronoun?)
• Object (objectivePronoun?)
• Dependent possessive (determiner)
• Independent possessive
• Reflexive

[VirginiaBalseiro]

We could do:

• solid:subjectPronoun
• solid:possessivePronoun
• solid:objectivePronoun

we don't need relative.

[TallTed]

re https://github.com/solid/vocab/issues/79#issuecomment-1248527829 -- Sure, those last 3 are probably sufficient.

re https://github.com/solid/vocab/issues/79#issuecomment-1248458017 -- SolidOS and PodBrowser should have issues raised against them to remove the preferred from their vocabularies.

And I still think this issue should be retitled to remove preferred from constant repetition, as it will continue to be off-putting to the long suffering folks who are particularly impacted by this issue.