Sam's new security

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What steps will reproduce the problem?
1.Ummm.. the game?
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What is the expected output? What do you see instead?

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?

Please provide any additional information below.
Sams's new security doesn't look very hard to crack to me.
Can't you just tell the save editor to tell the game to tell the server false 
messages?
I really want to have kyogre back, and i want to keep those legendary dogs.
If you don't have time to work on this, that's okay. You deserve a break.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by williamc...@gmail.com on 20 Jul 2011 at 1:13

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@Mat,
Big favor, but if you know how to hack online and dont want to share it. Is 
there any chance you could hack a profile for me then? Or E-mail me on how to 
do it?

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 18 Sep 2011 at 4:22

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I'd love to share it actually, but it would allow Sam to correct it, so it 
wouldn't work anymore.
I just tested it again and it works fine.
Also, it seems that Sam put a filter when you save your profile online : 
illegal Pokémon (at least the ones with a level above the current level cap) 
are automatically removed from your save file.

However, I won't tell anyone how to do it (who knows what they can do with it, 
I don't want it to be made public) and I won't do it for anyone, because I 
would get lots of requests and I don't want to spend my time hacking saves for 
other people (hacking saves this way is MUCH more complicated and 
time-consuming than with the save editor).

So I'm sorry Fattyboifresh, but I can't help you. I hope you understand.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 18 Sep 2011 at 9:33

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So you know how to hack it just cant make it into a save editor yet?

Original comment by alex_ngu...@yahoo.com on 18 Sep 2011 at 5:57

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@Mat

Dude why wouldnt I understand?! Your a boss, I dont want you over burdened. 
Curious however is there anyway you could trade me some pokes?

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 18 Sep 2011 at 8:32

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did you crack the code yet?

Original comment by allenle...@gmail.com on 18 Sep 2011 at 8:38

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I did not "crack the code", it's a different approach which does not require 
knowing the way checksums are generated.
However, it cannot be automated, so a save editor is pretty impossible to make 
until someone figures out the checksums.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 18 Sep 2011 at 9:09

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cracking the code is hard besides the game is more exciting without hacking 
except for celadon city

Original comment by Elizuc...@gmail.com on 19 Sep 2011 at 7:38

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can you maybe hack the trade center? for like casino coins and daily codes?

Original comment by stephen5...@gmail.com on 20 Sep 2011 at 12:49

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found a checksum calculator if it helps http://crc32-checksum.waraxe.us/ 

Original comment by stephen5...@gmail.com on 21 Sep 2011 at 9:15

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It's not that kind of checksum at all, but thanks for trying to help.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 22 Sep 2011 at 6:59

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is it possible to modify smaller values more easily, like level or move? or 
shiny?
because that could come in useful

Original comment by williamc...@gmail.com on 25 Sep 2011 at 9:46

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i have a friend that might be able to help, i mean he knows how to find a way 
though almost impossible security codes,he cracked the codes in official 
pokemon games on his own,and made his on computer from scratch,plus he also 
makes flash games so ill try to see if he can help :3

Original comment by jakayl...@gmail.com on 25 Sep 2011 at 10:43

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Finally!
We need ways to hack PTD.
I can't get past Lavander town!
I don't want to wait until level 100 to get really powerful attacks to beat the 
persians either.
I suggest hacking the site, but that would be hard because of cross checking.
Maybe we could hack the server itself?
Call in Lulzsec ;)

Original comment by marra2...@gmail.com on 26 Sep 2011 at 1:36

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@ 116 : http://pokemontowerdefense.wikia.com/wiki/Lavender_Town

I say wait until game development is over, then make a save editor

Original comment by williamc...@gmail.com on 26 Sep 2011 at 1:43

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@112 : "shiny" value is not used in checksum generation (I think), but you 
still need to know how to generate the checksum with the other values if you 
want to make a save editor.

@113 : thanks, keep in touch.  :)

@116 : I DON'T want to hack the server. The save editor is supposed to allow 
people to enjoy new ways of playing, not to ruin everybody's fun.  :/

@117 : yep, that's how I see it too.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 26 Sep 2011 at 7:17

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Makes sense. I'm just irritated w/ lavender town!
Any tips?

Original comment by marra2...@gmail.com on 26 Sep 2011 at 11:42

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use fighting types, like machop for lavender town. I recommend 4 dymanic punch 
and one helping hand and 1 rock tomb.

Original comment by allenle...@gmail.com on 27 Sep 2011 at 1:27

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use fighting types, like machop for lavender town. I recommend 4 dymanic
punch and one helping hand and 1 rock tomb.

Original comment by allenle...@gmail.com on 27 Sep 2011 at 2:11

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this is NOT a discussion about lavender town!

anyone have ideas for the save editor?

Original comment by williamc...@gmail.com on 28 Sep 2011 at 8:53

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i havent heard from my friend havoc in a while but well he did start college a 
while ago so hes probably busy.. but ill tell u guys if he wants to help :D

Original comment by jakayl...@gmail.com on 29 Sep 2011 at 3:16

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sorry.

Original comment by marra2...@gmail.com on 2 Oct 2011 at 5:00

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man, I want to have the save editor so bad, if I knew anything about how to 
hack into the games I would help, but all I can do is hack w/ CE which still 
works on ptd btw, but anyways keep up the good work mat, and work on a way to 
mass produce the hack you are able to do right now

Oh, and can you show us a video of what all you can do with the hack you can 
do, but ofcourse not showing us how you did it since you don't want it to be 
released as of now, but I'd just like to see what all you're able to do to it.

Original comment by ranttd...@gmail.com on 4 Oct 2011 at 1:44

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Well, I can do pretty much the same things as with the save editor, so I'm not 
sure a video would be useful…

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 4 Oct 2011 at 7:06

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does anybody know what the program to "shinyfy" pokemon is?

Original comment by aaronle...@gmail.com on 5 Oct 2011 at 8:42

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sounds like a scam to me

Original comment by williamc...@gmail.com on 7 Oct 2011 at 11:34

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Hey Mat
Just curious, does your method have anything to do with SOL editing?

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 10 Oct 2011 at 3:19

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@ #129 :
Nope, I work directly on the HTTP requests.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 10 Oct 2011 at 5:38

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Oh, I see. Now out of my growing curiosity with this topic. The pokemon you 
spawn, say you spawned a dog, would it actually stay?

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 10 Oct 2011 at 6:45

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I'm pretty sure Sam has set up a mechanism to automatically remove special 
Pokémon such as Mew, the legendary dogs, etc.
However, a legal Pokémon (ie. a Pokémon that you could have caught in the 
game) would stay in your save.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 10 Oct 2011 at 7:24

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Mat,
The Dogs can be caught in Game. Im not sure maybe you should try it out..

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 10 Oct 2011 at 9:46

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I thought they were supposed to be removed when the event finished...
I'll try it out later when I have some spare time.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 11 Oct 2011 at 6:06

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The dogs can be caught, just with an Extremly low chance, if they will stay, 
you should put some up on the trade, because im sure theres other people on 
here that want them for their collection almost as bad as me

Original comment by ranttd...@gmail.com on 11 Oct 2011 at 11:07

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what u need is a good hacker and i have maybe a hacker too you

Original comment by markus-f...@hotmail.com on 11 Oct 2011 at 1:41

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@Mat
Yea they were but people complained so much that he re-added them to the wild 
to be caught with low probability. In any case give it a go and let me know how 
it goes, if you dont want to get spammed if it works and want to tell me 
privately you have my e-mail!

Original comment by Fattyboi...@gmail.com on 11 Oct 2011 at 7:03

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Hello Everyone!  I actually enjoy this topic and I wanted to see if I could 
help out. I have knowledge with: Cheat Engine, Fiddler and also Charles Web 
Debugging Proxy. Hopefully I can come of aid.

Original comment by ninjas...@gmail.com on 12 Oct 2011 at 3:30

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tried this?

http://www.showmycode.com/

Original comment by bacardi_...@hotmail.com on 13 Oct 2011 at 4:06

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@ #137 :
I did not try yet but I'll give the results here when I have some time.

@ #139 :
I does not work but thanks anyway.

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 13 Oct 2011 at 7:43

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There are 4 places your pokemons can be. There is the main storage where they 
can be put in battle, the trade market where traders can see them and the 
storage for prises from daily codes and game corner that you have yet to send 
to your profile. If you can't hack the first, like your old editor did, maybe 
you can access one of the others.

Original comment by fidedide...@hotmail.com on 19 Oct 2011 at 4:40

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@Mat
Any luck in your hack getting dogs?

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Sadly, it doesn't seem so =/

Original comment by ranttd...@gmail.com on 2 Nov 2011 at 10:51

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The end of the Save Editor?
To be continued...

Original comment by alex_ngu...@yahoo.com on 9 Nov 2011 at 1:23

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If people want to continue the project, they are free to do so.  :)

Original comment by mat.pokemontrash on 9 Nov 2011 at 4:23

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can someone good at hacking flash game finish the save editor?
I really need it because I lost all my pokemons from this one update and now i 
have no way to retrieve them :(

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Max can u plz tell us if u can finish it because i dont want to have false hope!

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