Would like to see varying levels of integration

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Great client, probably the best out so far but it could be made even better 
with a little tweaking on the integration.

Sometimes when I'm on wifi, I like to open my sip client and leave it running 
in the background to receive calls and be integrated with the dialer/call log.  
When I want to go back to cellular or no longer receive my incoming sip calls, 
I exit the client. 

There doesn't seem to be any way to do this with csipsimple at the moment.  If 
I check to integrate with android, the client always starts itself and hijacks 
my outgoing calls when I'm on wifi.  There should be a way to open the client 
and have it running persistently and integrated but also easily exit it 
entirely.  Both sipdroid and 3cx operate in this fashion.

Thanks for a great client!

Original issue reported on code.google.com by sam7...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2010 at 12:48

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I agree to some extent, I think the problem is that whenever attempting to dial 
it pops up asking to use VOIP or mobile. 

* If voip is not registered/available then it should default to dial by mobile 
without prompting (maybe making this a configuration option).
* If making a call via bluetooth (voice dial) one has to still select the 
'connection' to use which is a problem for handsfree operation. Perhaps a 
default dial option should be made available so this prompt doesn't appear, or 
even better detect whether the call was initiate via voice dial and use a 
configured 'connection' in that case.

Original comment by marc.mar...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2010 at 1:09

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All your remarks are already tweakable using settings :
For sam first point : use "Available on wifi" in easy settings and you can 
tweak more in details in Network settings if you want to lock wifi or not.

Same thing for integration to native dialer, there is an option in User 
interface

for marc remarks :
* If voip is actually not available on the network you are (and you configured 
properly easy settings for what you want) it will not ask you for choice !!

 For bluetooth, unfortunately, for now android bluetooth api is poor, but voice dial is a good idea, I'll keep that in mind.

Guys just try the settings, and if you are using the developpement version (the 
one available on this website you can switch to expert mode)... You'll see that 
the client is highly tweakable !!!! I just doesn't underline these options 
cause I consider that mainstream users doesn't matters... But I also really 
attached to provide power users a way to tweak the app..;.
So just play with settings you'll be pleased.... 
And if you want to contribute, you can write documentations about how to 
configure it. For now I'm really focused on the code itself... And there is 
poor doc on the project.

Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2010 at 7:54

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There may me some miscommunication on what I'm hoping for, or I may just not 
see the right options.  If I choose available on wifi, the program will run 
like a service and be continuously registered/restarted if killed, but I lose 
the exit button I get with always outgoing.  I know its just an extra couple 
clicks for the user but I think it would be nice if I could get the program to 
run like a service AND tell it to exit when I'm done with it without having to 
change settings each time I use it.  

As far as the integration, same goes with having to go into the settings and 
change stuff when I want to start or quit using the client.  If I set only 
outgoing (so I can exit the client), integrate with android and exit the client 
and then try to place a call (fully intending it be over cellular of course, 
the sip client is closed intentionally), the client starts itself and tries to 
register and intercepts my call.  I'm sure some desire that behavior but to me 
its obnoxious. To avoid it I need to go in and uncheck integrate everytime I'm 
done using the client.

Bottom line is there doesn't seem to be a way to make the program start and run 
persistently when called with integration and then exit for real when asked 
without changing settings each use. I think users coming from sipdroid or 3cx 
may find this frustrating.  

I'll grab the devel version and see if I can tweak it to work in this fashion.  
If I can, I'll write a doc for you so people don't ask this again ;)

Original comment by sam7...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2010 at 2:13

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Indeed, try the latest dev build (available on download section), there is some 
improvements regarding your remarks 
There is also a home screen widget that could help a lot :)

Besides, try to *never* kill a running service. In android 2.2 it has been 
disabled for third party apps which is a really good thing. Apps such as task 
killer are really bad things cause they put in mind of users that if an app is 
in the task list it means that the app is doing something, which is absolutely 
wrong : sometime android keep in ram an app freezed and the app does nothing. 

For your second point : there is one open point about the fact it doesn't 
automatically deregister if gsm is choosen. I've to fix that but have to be 
able to manage multiple calls before (Even if seems to be not linked, it is 
actually ;) ).

You can also choose to deactivate android integration (Settings > User 
interface) if you are not pleased with the fact it constantly ask you (and you 
can also use filters (read the FAQ ) to choose which phone number it should ask 
you for choosing).

Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2010 at 3:01