HDD Startup

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Hi, I am loving WiiFlow, the best USB Loader by far!

I have a Lacie 320Gb 2.5" External Drive. Its a really nice unit because it
has a short built in USB cable that is ideal for using on the Wii.

I can get it to work but only if I unplug the drive and plug it back in
again. It works perfectly after doing this so it made me wonder if there
was some sort of reinitialisation that could be done on the USB ports to
achieve the same thing when the loader starts up?

I think if this could be achieved, the amount of drives that would be
compatible would increase significantly because I suspect many more drives
might work if people tried this but they have probably given up when the
drive fails to be recognised and tried a different drive.

Very occasionally the Loader will go straight in without me pulling the USB
out so I suspect it could be solved with software!
I have tried an external Power Supply too and this made no difference, so I
definitely think it just need the drive to be initialised at the right point.

Thanks again, for a fantastic job on the loader!!

Dave.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by tivol...@gmail.com on 17 Nov 2009 at 6:09

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Please try NForwarder to start WiiFlow. NForwarder does a USB retry (storage 
startup
an mount) if drive is not ready on startup. Download:
http://wiiflow.googlecode.com/files/Wiiflow_NForwarder.zip

Please report ...

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 3:01

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Hi,

I installed the wad.

When I launch, I get a black screen for several seconds before the Wii resets.

Original comment by tivol...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 10:39

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Sorry, scratch that, the default wad install runs from wiiflow_249, I 
duplicated this
directory and renamed to wiiflow and the forwarder seems to boot wiiflow now.

I managed to get a successful boot 3 times on the trot, but only if I force the 
Wii
to power down fully (by holding the power button for 7 seconds).

I have noticed that if I power of the Wii from the remote or from the Wii 
itself but
just push the power button once, whilst everything goes off, the blue light on 
my USB
HDD stays on. Powering on the Wii in this state prevents a successful boot and 
the
only way to get into WiiFlow is to unplug and replug in the usb cable on the 
screen
with the picture of the Wii. Even though it says to reset the console, plugging 
the
drive back in on this screen boots into WiiFlow after a few seconds (when the 
drive
has finished powering up).

Original comment by tivol...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 10:55

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Ok, I found if I change the Wii Connect options to off when in the Wii is in
stand-by, the USB is now powering down completely with a single press. 

That means I can now get WiiFlow to initialise the drive 95% of the time if I 
make
sure I power the Wii off each time. If I go back to the System Menu from a game,
that's not good enough, I have to power the Wii off and restart, but at least 
thats
better than having to keep pulling the usb cable out :-) 

Original comment by tivol...@gmail.com on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:20

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OK, thanks. Have you tried using WiiFlow with IOS 222 instead of 249?

If not, please try it. Installation instructions for IOS 222 can be found here:
http://gwht.wikidot.com/hermes-ios222-223

After IOS 222 installation download the WiiFlow 222 dol and put it in your
/apps/wiiflow directory as boot.dol.

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:33

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I have just the opposite problem.  My HDD shuts down when i turn the wii off 
just 
fine.  However it will not turn on when i power up the wii.  The usb is in the 
right 
spot on the wii.  I have physically unplug the power to the hdd the plug it 
back in 
to turn it on, then start the wii, and everything is fine.  Any ideas how i 
could 
solve my problem?  Thanks.

Original comment by ECu...@gmail.com on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:43

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Hi Narolez,

I had considered downloading 222 for a while, but as everything (game wise) 
seemed
fine with 249, had never got round to it.

I just tried it, doesn't seem to have made any difference, WiiFlow still boots 
first
time from a cold start, but returning to the Wii System Menu from anywhere and
re-running WiiFlow cause the "Please plug a USB HDD on port - or press reset" 
screen.
If left, it times out with "WBFS_Init Failed".

Original comment by tivol...@gmail.com on 19 Nov 2009 at 8:01

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OK, i will see what i can do for you ...

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 19 Nov 2009 at 10:08

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Please try Configurable USB-Loader: 
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=147638

If this don't work, I can't get it work in WiiFlow.

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 20 Nov 2009 at 4:43

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Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 21 Nov 2009 at 7:34

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Just a comment to help you Narolez.
I've realized that NeoGamma has somekind of a code that "wake up" slow HDD, and 
some 
HDD just work on NeoGamma.
Maybe you could talk with Wiipower's so he could show you the code.

Original comment by nfernan...@gmail.com on 21 Nov 2009 at 11:36

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Hi Narolez,
Thanks for your help on this, I dumped the drive and bought a WD Passport which 
works
beautifully, so don't worry about it, I thing some drives partially work and 
that's it.

Original comment by tivol...@gmail.com on 23 Nov 2009 at 6:08

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Hello, I get the same problem with my very old 40Gb HD withe the R25 version.

It works with R20 (only with wad file not dol file).

Where can I download the wad file for R25 version ?
Can I build it ?

Thanks

Original comment by philzeg...@gmail.com on 24 Nov 2009 at 1:16

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hi, ive got seagate freeagent 500GB (split fat32/wbfs). Never had freezing prob
before but now I get it too using wiiflow and wii coverfloader. But i noticed 
it only
happens if i launch them too quickly after homebrew channel ie, load HBC, then
quickly load wiiflow. If i wait 1 or 2sec then load wiiflow there is no freeze. 
As a
test, I moved mplayer_ce to HDD and changed HBC to load it from there. I 
disconnected
HDD and powered off wii. Reconnected HDD and started wii, then loaded HBC and 
quickly
loaded mplayer_ce. It ran fine. So maybe wiiflow can borrow some code from 
mplayer?
Or maybe theres a problem with my wbfs partition and mplayer works fine bcos it 
uses
the fat32 partition. Might format wbfs partition and start again  :(

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 25 Nov 2009 at 1:37

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Try updating to cios v15. Others have had similar problems and the latest cios 
has
helped. See here:

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=USB_Devices_Compatibility_List

Original comment by ku...@shaw.ca on 25 Nov 2009 at 3:41

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thanks but already am on rev15 and no difference. I thought it was HBC 1.0.6 so 
went
down to 1.0.5 but no good. Maybe i go back to rev14 but think it was happening 
with
that too

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 25 Nov 2009 at 3:53

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Does seagate provide a setup utility for their drives? some drives require
programming to turn on the keep alive feature. 

Original comment by ku...@shaw.ca on 26 Nov 2009 at 5:07

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I have a similar problem to others. I have to use Neogamma to load my 
HDD(seagate 
free agent 500g desktop silver) after I turn my wii on. Then, I could use my 
HDD 
with Wiiflow. As long as I don't turn the console off, I can use wiiflow and 
play 
games. But if I turn the console off and on again, use wiiflow to load my HDD 
at 
first, it always shows the screen like, "there's no usb device, press reset" 
something like that. Then, I have to reset, use Neogamma and so on. I've always 
wondered, why Neogamma can make it work but wiiflow can't? I finally got the 
answer 
from the commenter 'nfernandes' up there, Thanks. 
Could you please put the code which Neogamma has? Hope it's not that diffcult.  

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2009 at 8:00

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Oh, I also tried R25 and it also has same problem. 

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2009 at 8:02

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yes seagate has software to stop drive going to sleep which I set to never. But
problem is not that it goes to sleep or spins down, its because it doesnt start 
up in
time after Wii is powered on and i start wii flow. like i said, if i wait a few
seconds after starting hbc and then start wiiflow it works like a charm

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 29 Nov 2009 at 10:28

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Let's not focus on "Seagate". Let's focus on How Neogamma can make HDD work but 
wiiflow can't.

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 30 Nov 2009 at 4:47

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If i get time, i will take a look ...

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 30 Nov 2009 at 5:54

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ok, i worked it out. The freeze is caused by HBC 1.0.6 (for me at least) and 
only if
I load an application while the icon in bottom right corner (update HBC I 
think) is
flashing. If you wait til it stops flashing then it doesnt freeze. I went back 
to HBC
1.0.3 and no freeze even when icon is flashing

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 1 Dec 2009 at 8:49

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Freeagents, please try R27t1 an report: http://www.multiupload.com/EHO3TMJT91

Original comment by Naro...@googlemail.com on 2 Dec 2009 at 1:58

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It works! I've tested 5 times with R27t1, it got frozen once but other 4 times 
were 
sucessful. I'm not trying to be greedy here but could you make it to a wad 
channel 
file when you finish the test version of this? Cause people like us, it won't 
be 
easy to do those injection things and all, kinda worried about bricking wii. 
Anyway, 
Thank you so much your help! I really appreciate it!

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 3 Dec 2009 at 5:55

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I'm having a similar issue, I just got a mybook home edition 500gb, created 2
partitions (FAT32 and a WBFS), the thing is, the only program that recognizes 
it is
Wiixplorer (not even HBC does), but after wiixplorer, everything else 
recognizes it
(triiforce, wiiflow, usbloader-gx, hbc...) could you guys take a look on how
wiixplorer initializes the usb? thats seems to do the trick

Thanks in advance

Original comment by jeanrmar...@gmail.com on 4 Dec 2009 at 4:29

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maybe try swapping partition order around...ie wbfs first, fat32 second

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 6 Dec 2009 at 10:48

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I tried the same conf on another hard drive, on a generic case, and it worked 
like a
charm, I think it has to do with the initialization process, I know MyBook (Home
Edition only) is kinda a pain in the ass, I read about using an esata to usb 
adapter
to fix that, I was only thinking that if wiixplorer can start it, theres is a
software solution for this

Original comment by jeanrmar...@gmail.com on 6 Dec 2009 at 11:34

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u talking about another drive?... but each drive is different. my friends only 
worked
with wbfs as first partition. worth a try, but its ur choice

Original comment by kickith...@hotmail.com on 6 Dec 2009 at 11:45

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Hi, Narolez. 
could you do me one more favor? I've been trying to install game channels with 
Loadstructor But cloader also can't detect my seagate freeagent hard drive. It 
seems, it has same problem as the one wiiflow used to have which you fixed for 
me 
before. Could you fix this problem in cloader like you did for wiiflow? Or 
Could you 
make wiiflow compatible with Loadstructor? It would be the best christmas gift 
for 
me. Haha. Hope this is not so hard. Happy Holiday!

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 16 Dec 2009 at 10:31

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I have another suggetion for wiiflow. Could you make a function such as "Make 
game 
channel"? Just like clicking 'download cover' to download covers, it would be 
great 
if there's "make game channel" option. I think it's good to have but maybe it's 
too 
complicated?  

Original comment by E.J.Kim...@gmail.com on 17 Dec 2009 at 8:49

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I am getting the same issue.  I do not know if it is my HDD or what.  But I am 
using 
an older laptop hdd in an enclosure.  As soon as I plug it into the usb slot it 
starts up.  But when I load wiiflow nothing happens it stays on the Please 
wait... 
screen.  So the only fix I found so far was to reset the wii, go into wad 
manager 
and plug the hdd back in and mount the hdd from the usb 2.0 selection and it 
works.  
So I basically have to either do this everytime or put the wii in standby mode 
which 
keeps the hdd on.  Will the forwarder work for this?  or is my drive just too 
old 
its from a laptop that is almost 9 years old.  

Original comment by mtconig...@gmail.com on 5 Jan 2010 at 2:04

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I'm getting the same issue too. I have not problem with my pen drive 8Gb pen 
drive. 
With my new external disk Samsung of 1 Tb, I get the same "Please plug a USB 
HDD on 
port ...". Yesterday I try with USB Loader GX 
(http://code.google.com/p/usbloader-gui/) 
and work fine. Maybe you can see there. Thanks for your great job !

Original comment by angelzei...@gmail.com on 7 Jan 2010 at 9:11

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Any news with the latest revisions (r36+)? This should work now. If not, I can 
try to
add the fix for this, using the USB GX code :P

Original comment by e.bovend...@gmail.com on 17 Mar 2010 at 12:14

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About a month ago, I asked for reactions on this using r36. Now that Wiiflow 
2.0 is released, I still would like some response to this question. If no 
response is given within a month, this issue will be closed.

Original comment by r-...@live.com on 24 Jun 2010 at 2:04

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I've been trying to get 2.0 working with my fat32-usbstick all night... no luck 
:-(

Loading from forwarder or straight from HBC, from SD or USB, always gives me 
'Please wait...' and my WiiLight starts flashing, that's all. :'-(

Original comment by jeremy.d...@gmail.com on 3 Jul 2010 at 11:35

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same issue here, since my upgrade from 1.1 to 2.1 it seems harder to get my 
disk to work. Tried 2 enclosures.

Original comment by ivovdheu...@gmail.com on 13 Jul 2010 at 8:04

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Original comment by Miigotu on 16 Sep 2010 at 2:58

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I'm sorry to bump this, but i've encountered the same problem that the initial 
post describes. I've been using CFG for a month but I don't quiet like it, so I 
tired the latest WiiFlow revi as of now. Using IOS249 requires me to replug the 
drive every time I start the loader through HBC. When using IOS222 (tried v4 
with base37+38 and v5.1 with base57) the screen with running dots and the 
WiiFlow logo won't appear, it just stays black forever.

Original comment by timewalk...@gmail.com on 31 Dec 2010 at 3:34

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Is not working i tried everything to fix this  issue and i hate it i got this 
usb yesterday 2tb.

Original comment by chrisrol...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 11:56

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try this procedure
http://btoforums.com/showthread.php?t=2821

disable standby direct in hard drive

use Crystal Disk software to disable APM on Seagate or western digital

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