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A multiplayer game about paranoia and chaos on a space station. Remake of the cult-classic Space Station 13.
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Problem as Janitor Borg #24293

Open ColdDead opened 8 months ago

ColdDead commented 8 months ago

Description

Simply put, the Borg Janitor with its adv module cannot refill its ADV janitor module without a space cleaner refill station, which is a problem because not every map has one.

Reproduction

Just spray it empty and try to refill it on any chem container

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Additional context

My idea is to simply insert a dropper and a 50u beaker into the ADV module like the medic borg already has in the ADV module

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

Wouldn't that allow the janiborg to easily load any available solution they choose into the sprayer?

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

good

ColdDead commented 8 months ago

Wouldn't that allow the janiborg to easily load any available solution they choose into the sprayer?

Yes, but some way this need a way that the borg can do all stuff

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

firefighter borg and fire fighter borg

UbaserB commented 8 months ago

Simply map the space cleaner into all maps

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

Okay I tried (implementing this is trivially easy) and it's annoying to fill the beaker with a dropper. I suppose it's better than nothing, but... Perhaps not an ideal solution. Simply making sure dispensers are present on all maps at janitorial would possibly be a bigger QoL improvement although a case could easily be made for going for both solutions simultaneously

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

syringe is faster (still annoying but better than dropper) but has the issue of janiborg validhunters having syringe AND spray

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

What implications would it have if their dropper was simply larger? Like 50u so it only needs 1 click (would still need 3 beakerfills to fill the bottle). Would they be press-ganged by the crew to do chemistry faster, or could that be abused in some other way?

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

beakers already transfer 50u so doesnt matter

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

beakers already transfer 50u so doesnt matter

Yes but it takes 2x10 clicks to fill a beaker once, with the dropper (afaik you cant fill a beaker in your hand straight from another beaker, if you can't put it down to pour into you need to use the dropper)

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

right click set transfer amount :trollface:

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

right click set transfer amount :trollface:

Yes and the dropper by default has a maximum volume of 5 units dont trollface me if you haven't tried to do it (Though I just saw the dropper on the adv medical module is already extended to 10u capacity)

deltanedas commented 8 months ago

set transfer amount of beaker to 50u i mean, its no better to force a borg to transfer shit

Errant-4 commented 8 months ago

set transfer amount of beaker to 50u i mean, its no better to force a borg to transfer shit

Oh right. I forgot regular people don't NEED to use a beaker as an intermediary since they can just put it down. Okay then. So give the janiborg a 50u dropper and 50u beaker? Or the existing 10u borgdropper, make them suffer a bit for their fills