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A multiplayer game about paranoia and chaos on a space station. Remake of the cult-classic Space Station 13.
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Sterile swab is not single use only #24904

Open gordod3 opened 7 months ago

gordod3 commented 7 months ago

Description

Sterile swab can use unlimited times for transfer gen from one plant to other.

Reproduction

  1. Take gens with one sterile swab from plant A.
  2. Tranfer gens from same sterile swabe to plant B.
  3. Take gens still the same sterile swabe from plant A.
  4. Transfer gens from same sterile swabe to anyone plant. Alldone you use sterile swab more than one time and it worked.

Video

https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/assets/59264914/b30806ed-9dbf-4e54-a92d-bfe8ede5d8c2

Additional context I think there is no need to explain how much it broke botany with no limited swab.

deltanedas commented 7 months ago

that doesnt do what you think it does

GreyMario commented 7 months ago

This is genuinely a non-issue and does not "break botany".

gordod3 commented 7 months ago

WTF, you kidding me? All time all botany knows about swabs is not "single use only"(Man seriosly it's directly write about that on them) and thinks it's normal?! Like seriosly? They called STERILE whats mean is they must be CLEAN of anything to be usable and it make sense also it makes swabs running out more often and botanists go in Medbay for print some more or in Cargo to buy medkits with swabs, whats was wrong with that???

gordod3 commented 7 months ago

All year for botay player I know about that only today.....

deltanedas commented 7 months ago
  1. Take gens with one sterile swab from plant A.
  2. Tranfer gens from same sterile swabe to plant B.
  3. Take gens still the same sterile swabe from plant A.
  4. Transfer gens from same sterile swabe to anyone plant.
  5. Alldone you use sterile swab more than one time and it worked.

heres what happens:

  1. the swab has genes from A
  2. the swab now has B's old genes
  3. A gets some of B's old genes, the swab has genes from old A
  4. if you repeat this you get a combination of A+B's genes
gordod3 commented 7 months ago
  1. Take gens with one sterile swab from plant A.
  2. Tranfer gens from same sterile swabe to plant B.
  3. Take gens still the same sterile swabe from plant A.
  4. Transfer gens from same sterile swabe to anyone plant.
  5. Alldone you use sterile swab more than one time and it worked.

heres what happens:

  1. the swab has genes from A
  2. the swab now has B's old genes
  3. A gets some of B's old genes, the swab has genes from old A
  4. if you repeat this you get a combination of A+B's genes

Thanks, but then I seen you mentioned it above I went in code and seen what it does. . . . It's so absurd. If it be like chaotic mixing gen from plant A with plant B in swab because you messed up Dust of these it be normal, but what we have here it's nonsense.

deltanedas commented 7 months ago

i would just make them completely non reusable since doing it properly is tricky for an ultra pro botanist let alone some random farmer the chef demands wheat from

Ilya246 commented 7 months ago

they should just get polluted with the genes of the plant you're swabbing onto when you use them

gordod3 commented 7 months ago

i would just make them completely non reusable since doing it properly is tricky for an ultra pro botanist let alone some random farmer the chef demands wheat from

I don't gei what you mean about "properly" and "farmer the chef demands wheat form" stuff. . . .

deltanedas commented 7 months ago

actually reusing swabs with the correct genes and without tainting anything, like if using fresh swabs each time, is hard

gordod3 commented 7 months ago

actually reusing swabs with the correct genes and without tainting anything, like if using fresh swabs each time, is hard

"Is hard" ye it's true, but for me also fair enough than magical clearing swab from old dust with new old dust from plant after swabing, jeez it so cursed then I write that....

UbaserB commented 7 months ago

WTF, you kidding me? All time all botany knows about swabs is not "single use only"(Man seriosly it's directly write about that on them) and thinks it's normal?! Like seriosly? They called STERILE whats mean is they must be CLEAN of anything to be usable and it make sense also it makes swabs running out more often and botanists go in Medbay for print some more or in Cargo to buy medkits with swabs, whats was wrong with that???

they’re called “sterile” because they’re sterile in the box before you use it for the first time. After you use it, it is no longer sterile and you can use it to cross-pollinate several times with lower efficiency and this is all intended. If anything, this issue should be how the name “sterile swab” doesn’t change after you use it for the first time.