space-wizards / space-station-14

A multiplayer game about paranoia and chaos on a space station. Remake of the cult-classic Space Station 13.
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air alarm pressure settings are stupidly high #28192

Open deltanedas opened 2 months ago

deltanedas commented 2 months ago

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they will be warning at like 90kpa and close firelocks at 85kpa, both of which are completely safe to everyone. this means nobody cares about firelocks because half the time theyre down for no good reason

PJB3005 commented 2 months ago

Read the comment nerd

  lowerBound: !type:AlarmThresholdSetting
    # Actual low pressure damage threshold is at 20 kPa, but below ~85 kPa you can't breathe due to lack of oxygen.
    threshold: 85

https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/blob/dbb7dcd16d97d7cf7a7d1430a07bb24cce55c3d9/Resources/Prototypes/Atmospherics/thresholds.yml#L16C1-L18C18 You can't lower them.

deltanedas commented 2 months ago

you can very much breathe at 85kpa and it still leads to everyone ignoring firelocks because theyre so sensitive theres usually no danger to opening them, so when its actually spaced you think nothing of it

it would be better if the warning was 85kpa and danger ~50kpa since thats when the pressure warning kicks in but still plenty of room before damage

PJB3005 commented 2 months ago

Sorry but you are wrong on both counts:

The low pressure damage bound is not 50 kPa, it's 20 kPa. Content Client_nIfz4onj1X

You cannot breathe in even 80 kPa of air. The bound is a bit higher but even at 83 kPa it's not enough. image

deltanedas commented 2 months ago

yes and at 40kpa youd see the warning alert not take damage

atmos can have a 50 50 distro mix if they want to increase the breathable pressure and that shouldnt require maxing out every single air alarm on the station. if a single room is unbreathable because distro isnt set up, having firelocks close (on top of airlocks which are already airtight) is just annoying, it doesnt help make the room have better air quality in any way

besides, firelocks should only be going down for dangerous things like fires, active spacing, dangerous gases. being slightly underpressure will be helped by equalization not hurt. firelocks going down for no real reason only makes nobody ever trust firelocks even if they have good reason to be down like high co2 which is very bad