space-wizards / space-station-14

A multiplayer game about paranoia and chaos on a space station. Remake of the cult-classic Space Station 13.
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Mega-Issue for "Noobtrap" mechanics that should be temporarily nerfed/changed for the PCTide #28604

Open Jezithyr opened 4 months ago

Jezithyr commented 4 months ago

This issue is specifically for mechanics/items that cause issues from a lack of understanding, mechanics/items that result in issues from nefarious intent (ie: welderbombs) should be tracked in this issue instead: #28606

This is a list of mechanics/changes that should be made to make the new player experience considerably better without requiring major changes. These changes should be fast/easy to fix without requiring major changes to design or code. These changes should be tracked and any PRs should reference this issue so that they can be reverted after the Tide wanes.

In the future, we should make these mechanics configurable via CVAR(s), for example: Enable/Disable "New Player Friendly Mechanics"

If you have any suggestions for other mechanics/gameplay that is problematic feel free to suggest it in the discussion.

Please keep actually discussion to a minimum or use #contributors in discord, the discussion below should only be used for listing mechanics/gameplay that are problematic to new players.

Changes:

Hanzdegloker commented 4 months ago

I almost got arrested by sec for not having an ID because I swapped on the arrivals shuttle when I was a young spess lad. Maybe if you swap your uniform instead of ripping off your clothes it can swap it over with?

Arcticular commented 4 months ago

I reckon a big issue for new players is the UI maybe adding a little tips pop up in the guidebook to explain the aspects of the hud

mirrorcult commented 4 months ago

welderbombing needs nerfed imo

mirrorcult commented 4 months ago

clf3 as well, both should be very easy

mirrorcult commented 4 months ago

(as a temporary measure, doesnt need to be permanent)

Jezithyr commented 4 months ago

welderbombing needs nerfed imo clf3 as well, both should be very easy

@mirrorcult are these for newbies or greifers? I'm making a separate issue for tracking greiferbait

mirrorcult commented 4 months ago

both but probably more relevant for grieferbait

XxSWAG-MASTER-OVERLORDxX commented 4 months ago

the problem with welders is that if you refuel the welder when its on it blows up, if that was changed it would fix it

Jezithyr commented 4 months ago

both but probably more relevant for grieferbait

Moved welderbombing and nerfing clf3 to#28606 since they are more greifer-related than players making mistakes

Djungelskog2 commented 4 months ago

the arrivals shuttle leaving before you get off might be something to consider

Titian3 commented 4 months ago

When you are on fire, its extremely unclear you have to click on the fire status button to stop, drop and roll. Probably died half a dozen times when I was a noob until someone told me.

Brandon-Huu commented 4 months ago

Shuttle Gibbing Shuttle leaving before you get off

AI security guards forcefully removing you from the area. Or just make it one of security responsibilities to get everyone off shuttle

Switching uniform drops your PDA without telling you. Switching uniform drops your IDCard without telling you.

Remove these "features"

Singularity is too easy to accidentally cause a singu-loose if you aren't familiar with how it works. Technical Assistants can't access singularity / tesla region.

Technical Assistants require approval by a chief engineer before unlocking the station engineer role.

K-Dynamic commented 4 months ago

Definitely need FTL warning tile/overlays/whatever where a shuttle is gonna appear in 10 seconds

I thought people get teleported from arrivals shuttle onto the station when it leaves though

justinbrick commented 4 months ago

I thought people get teleported from arrivals shuttle onto the station when it leaves though

I'm pretty sure it does - can anyone confirm?

First time contributing, I am looking to do something quick & easy to troubleshoot and setup my workflow, want to tackle these:

Switching uniform drops your PDA without telling you. Switching uniform drops your IDCard without telling you.

Will this require a formal decision to be reached, or can I make a PR whenever I can get it done?

Brandon-Huu commented 4 months ago

Definitely need FTL warning tile/overlays/whatever where a shuttle is gonna appear in 10 seconds

I thought people get teleported from arrivals shuttle onto the station when it leaves though

Sometimes it just leaves you in space.

deltanedas commented 4 months ago

the ftl warning thing is about going out of arrivals right before it ftls in and gibs you epic style with no warning or counter

lzk228 commented 4 months ago

i think clothing swapping should be removed, like you should take off your current clothing to wear new and popup if some item depends on other is dropped