Items locked behind themselves

[DDenSD]

Seed: 14360702 Difficulty: Normal Logic: No-Glitches-22 Mode: Standard

Description of Problem: Mirror in Magic Bat Hammer in Purple chest Can't get either without either :( Spoiler (if available): ALttP - VT_no-glitches-22_normal-standard-ganon_14360702.txt { "Light World": { "Altar": "Twenty Rupees", "Uncle": "Progressive Sword", "[cave-034] Hyrule Castle secret entrance": "Mushroom", "[cave-018] Graveyard - top right grave": "Fifty Rupees", "[cave-047] Dam": "Ten Arrows", "[cave-040] Link's House": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-031] Tavern": "Heart Container", "[cave-026] chicken house": "Shovel", "[cave-044] Aginah's cave": "Book Of Mudora", "[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [left chest]": "Heart Container (refill)", "[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [center chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [right chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [top chest]": "Fifty Rupees", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [left chest row of 3]": "Five Rupees", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [center chest row of 3]": "Progressive Glove", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [right chest row of 3]": "Heart Container", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [bottom chest]": "Flippers", "[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top chest]": "Quake", "[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top left chest]": "Half Magic", "[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top right chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [bottom left chest]": "Fifty Rupees", "[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [bottom right chest]": "Ten Arrows", "Blacksmiths": "Fire Rod", "[cave-016] cave under rocks west of Santuary": "Three Bombs", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [bottom left chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [top left chest]": "Fifty Rupees", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [top right chest]": "Moon Pearl", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [bottom right chest]": "Boomerang", "[cave-051] Ice Cave": "One Rupee", "Bottle Vendor": "Progressive Shield", "Sahasrahla": "Piece Of Heart", "Magic Bat": "Magic Mirror", "Sick Kid": "Ten Arrows", "Purple Chest": "Hammer", "Hobo": "Progressive Sword", "Bombos Tablet": "Bomb Upgrade (5)", "King Zora": "Bomb Upgrade (10)", "Piece of Heart (Thieves' Forest Hideout)": "Fifty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Lumberjack Tree)": "Cane Of Byrna", "Piece of Heart (south of Haunted Grove)": "Bomb Upgrade (5)", "Piece of Heart (Graveyard)": "Twenty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Desert - northeast corner)": "Bottle (Fairy)", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia - generous guy": "Heart Container", "Library": "Lamp", "Mushroom": "Bomb Upgrade (5)", "Witch": "Bottle (Fairy)", "Piece of Heart (Maze Race)": "Three Hundred Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Desert - west side)": "Piece Of Heart", "Piece of Heart (Lake Hylia)": "Twenty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Dam)": "Piece Of Heart", "Piece of Heart (Zora's River)": "Magical Boomerang", "Haunted Grove item": "Bomb Upgrade (5)" }, "Escape": { "[dungeon-C-1F] Sanctuary": "Progressive Glove", "[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [left chest]": "Heart Container", "[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [middle chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [right chest]": "Five Rupees", "[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - first B1 room": "Key", "[dungeon-C-B1] Hyrule Castle - boomerang room": "Arrow Upgrade (5)", "[dungeon-C-B1] Hyrule Castle - map room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-C-B3] Hyrule Castle - next to Zelda": "Heart Container" }, "Eastern Palace": { "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - compass room": "Compass", "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - big chest": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - big ball room": "Pegasus Boots", "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - Big key": "Big Key", "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - map room": "Bomb Upgrade (5)", "Heart Container - Armos Knights": "Piece Of Heart" }, "Desert Palace": { "[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - big chest": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - Map room": "Key", "[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - Small key room": "Compass", "[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - Big key room": "Big Key", "[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - compass room": "Twenty Rupees", "Heart Container - Lanmolas": "Dungeon Map" }, "Death Mountain": { "Ether Tablet": "Piece Of Heart", "Old Mountain Man": "Three Bombs", "Piece of Heart (Spectacle Rock Cave)": "Twenty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Spectacle Rock)": "Progressive Sword" }, "East Death Mountain": { "[cave-012-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - left cave": "Three Bombs", "[cave-013] Mimic cave (from Turtle Rock)": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top left chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top left middle chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top right middle chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top right chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [bottom chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-009-B1] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [left chest]": "Three Hundred Rupees", "[cave-009-B1] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [right chest]": "Heart Container", "Piece of Heart (Death Mountain - floating island)": "Twenty Rupees" }, "Tower of Hera": { "[dungeon-L3-1F] Tower of Hera - first floor": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-L3-1F] Tower of Hera - freestanding key": "Big Key", "[dungeon-L3-2F] Tower of Hera - Entrance": "Five Rupees", "[dungeon-L3-4F] Tower of Hera - 4F [small chest]": "Compass", "[dungeon-L3-4F] Tower of Hera - big chest": "Dungeon Map", "Heart Container - Moldorm": "Key" }, "Hyrule Castle Tower": { "[dungeon-A1-2F] Hyrule Castle Tower - 2 knife guys room": "Key", "[dungeon-A1-3F] Hyrule Castle Tower - maze room": "Key", "Agahnim": "Defeat Agahnim" }, "Dark World": { "[cave-055] Spike cave": "Magic Powder", "[cave-071] Misery Mire west area [left chest]": "Cane Of Somaria", "[cave-071] Misery Mire west area [right chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[cave-057-1F] Dark World Death Mountain - cave from top to bottom [top chest]": "Three Bombs", "[cave-057-1F] Dark World Death Mountain - cave from top to bottom [bottom chest]": "Progressive Sword", "[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [top right chest]": "Three Bombs", "[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [top left chest]": "Heart Container", "[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [bottom left chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [bottom right chest]": "One Hundred Rupees" }, "North East Dark World": { "Catfish": "Twenty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Pyramid)": "Piece Of Heart", "Pyramid - Sword": "Fighters Sword", "Pyramid - Bow": "Bow And Arrows", "Pyramid Fairy - Left": "Twenty Rupees", "Pyramid Fairy - Right": "Arrow Upgrade (10)" }, "North West Dark World": { "[cave-063] doorless hut": "Heart Container", "[cave-062] C-shaped house": "Twenty Rupees", "Piece of Heart (Treasure Chest Game)": "Magic Cape", "Piece of Heart (Dark World blacksmith pegs)": "Arrow Upgrade (5)", "Piece of Heart (Dark World - bumper cave)": "Arrow" }, "South Dark World": { "[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [top chest]": "Ten Arrows", "[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [top middle chest]": "Progressive Armor", "[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [bottom middle chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [bottom chest]": "Arrow Upgrade (5)", "Flute Boy": "Twenty Rupees", "[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace - generous guy": "Three Bombs", "Piece of Heart (Digging Game)": "Heart Container" }, "Palace of Darkness": { "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - big key room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - jump room [right chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - jump room [left chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - big chest": "One Rupee", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - compass room": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - spike statue room": "Key", "[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - turtle stalfos room": "Key", "[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - room leading to Helmasaur [left chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - room leading to Helmasaur [right chest]": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - statue push room": "Key", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - maze room [top chest]": "Bottle", "[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - maze room [bottom chest]": "Compass", "[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - shooter room": "Key", "Heart Container - Helmasaur King": "Twenty Rupees" }, "Swamp Palace": { "[dungeon-D2-1F] Swamp Palace - first room": "Key", "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - big chest": "Bow", "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - big key room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - map room": "Compass", "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - push 4 blocks room": "Progressive Shield", "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - south of hookshot room": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - flooded room [left chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - flooded room [right chest]": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - hidden waterfall door room": "Three Bombs", "Heart Container - Arrghus": "Twenty Rupees" }, "Skull Woods": { "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - big chest": "Progressive Shield", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Big Key room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Compass room": "Bug Catching Net", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - east of Fire Rod room": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Entrance to part 2": "Key", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Gibdo/Stalfos room": "Key", "[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - south of Fire Rod room": "Key", "Heart Container - Mothula": "Compass" }, "Thieves Town": { "[dungeon-D4-1F] Thieves' Town - Room above boss": "Ice Rod", "[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom left of huge room [bottom right chest]": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom left of huge room [top left chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom right of huge room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Top left of huge room": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-D4-B2] Thieves' Town - big chest": "Piece Of Heart", "[dungeon-D4-B2] Thieves' Town - next to Blind": "Compass", "Heart Container - Blind": "Twenty Rupees" }, "Ice Palace": { "[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - Big Key room": "Hookshot", "[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - compass room": "Flute", "[dungeon-D5-B2] Ice Palace - map room": "Bombos", "[dungeon-D5-B3] Ice Palace - spike room": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D5-B4] Ice Palace - above Blue Mail room": "Compass", "[dungeon-D5-B5] Ice Palace - b5 up staircase": "Key", "[dungeon-D5-B5] Ice Palace - big chest": "Dungeon Map", "Heart Container - Kholdstare": "Key" }, "Misery Mire": { "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big chest": "Key", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big hub room": "Key", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big key": "Arrow Upgrade (5)", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - compass": "Compass", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - end of bridge": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - map room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - spike room": "Key", "Heart Container - Vitreous": "Piece Of Heart" }, "Turtle Rock": { "[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Chain chomp room": "Compass", "[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - compass room": "Key", "[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Map room [left chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Map room [right chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - big chest": "Heart Container", "[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - big key room": "Big Key", "[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - Roller switch room": "Silver Arrows Upgrade", "[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [bottom left chest]": "Progressive Armor", "[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [bottom right chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [top left chest]": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [top right chest]": "Five Rupees", "Heart Container - Trinexx": "Piece Of Heart" }, "Ganons Tower": { "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - down left staircase from entrance": "Key", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [top left chest]": "Three Bombs", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [top right chest]": "Big Key", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [bottom left chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [bottom right chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [top left chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [top right chest]": "Three Bombs", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [bottom left chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [bottom right chest]": "Key", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of teleport room": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - map room": "Dungeon Map", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - big chest": "Bomb Upgrade (5)", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - down right staircase from entrance [left chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - down right staircase from entrance [right chest]": "Three Bombs", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - above Armos": "Ether", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - east of down right staircase from entrance": "Arrow Upgrade (5)", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [top left chest]": "Bottle", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [top right chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [bottom left chest]": "Compass", "[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [bottom right chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [bottom chest]": "Three Hundred Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [left chest]": "Piece Of Heart", "[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [right chest]": "Fifty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - north of falling floor four torches [top left chest]": "Fifty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - north of falling floor four torches [top right chest]": "Twenty Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - before Moldorm": "Three Hundred Rupees", "[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - Moldorm room": "Arrow Upgrade (5)" }, "Pendants": { "Eastern Palace Pendant": "Crystal 5", "Desert Palace Pendant": "Crystal 7", "Tower of Hera Pendant": "Crystal 4" }, "Crystals": { "Palace of Darkness Crystal": "Crystal 2", "Swamp Palace Crystal": "Pendant Of Courage", "Skull Woods Crystal": "Pendant Of Power", "Thieves Town Crystal": "Crystal 3", "Ice Palace Crystal": "Crystal 6", "Misery Mire Crystal": "Crystal 1", "Turtle Rock Crystal": "Pendant Of Wisdom" }, "Medallions": { "Turtle Rock Medallion": "Bombos", "Misery Mire Medallion": "Bombos" }, "Fountains": { "Waterfall Bottle": "Bottle (Golden Bee)", "Pyramid Bottle": "Bottle (Blue Potion)" }, "playthrough": { "1": { "Light World": { "Uncle": "Progressive Sword", "[cave-044] Aginah's cave": "Book Of Mudora", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [center chest row of 3]": "Progressive Glove", "[cave-021] Kakariko well [bottom chest]": "Flippers", "[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [top right chest]": "Moon Pearl" }, "Hyrule Castle": { "[dungeon-C-1F] Sanctuary": "Progressive Glove" }, "Eastern Palace": { "[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - big ball room": "Pegasus Boots" } }, "2": { "Light World": { "Blacksmiths": "Fire Rod", "Purple Chest": "Hammer", "Hobo": "Progressive Sword", "Library": "Lamp" }, "Thieves Town": { "Thieves Town Crystal": "Crystal 3" } }, "3": { "Dark World": { "[cave-055] Spike cave": "Magic Powder" }, "Ice Palace": { "[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - Big Key room": "Hookshot", "[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - compass room": "Flute", "[dungeon-D5-B2] Ice Palace - map room": "Bombos" }, "Desert Palace": { "Desert Palace Pendant": "Crystal 7" } }, "4": { "Light World": { "Magic Bat": "Magic Mirror" }, "Dark World": { "[cave-071] Misery Mire west area [left chest]": "Cane Of Somaria", "[cave-057-1F] Dark World Death Mountain - cave from top to bottom [bottom chest]": "Progressive Sword" }, "Tower Of Hera": { "Tower of Hera Pendant": "Crystal 4" } }, "5": { "Swamp Palace": { "[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - big chest": "Bow" }, "Turtle Rock": { "[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - Roller switch room": "Silver Arrows Upgrade" }, "Ice Palace": { "Ice Palace Crystal": "Crystal 6" }, "Misery Mire": { "Misery Mire Crystal": "Crystal 1" } }, "6": { "Eastern Palace": { "Eastern Palace Pendant": "Crystal 5" }, "Dark Palace": { "Palace of Darkness Crystal": "Crystal 2" } }, "longest_item_chain": 6, "regions_visited": 17 }, "meta": { "difficulty": "normal", "logic": "no-glitches-22", "seed": 14360702, "goal": "ganon", "build": "2017-06-06", "mode": "standard" } }

[walkingeyerobot]

You can S&Q with frog following you and he'll spawn with you when you arrive back in the light world. From there you can do purple chest.

[DDenSD]

Thank you, I feel dumb now :P

[walkingeyerobot]

No problem, no need to feel dumb :) Learning something from a run is a good thing!

I don't have the power to close issues, but you might be able to as the reporter.