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Questions about msItem titles/URIs #75

Open nathangibson opened 7 years ago

nathangibson commented 7 years ago

@davidamichelson I'll reference this issue from individual issues I create for questions regarding British Library msItems that are lacking titles.

nathangibson commented 7 years ago

In general, is the following an appropriate format for inserting msItem titles that are not labeled in Wright? <title type="supplied" reason="missing" resp="http://syriaca.org/documentation/editors.xml#ngibson">...</title>

nathangibson commented 7 years ago

Sorry there are so many questions! You can see the ones I've done so far on this branch: https://github.com/srophe/srophe-app-data/commits/nathangibson-2016-12-02/data/manuscripts/tei

davidamichelson commented 7 years ago

Instead of "missing" let's put not-in-Wright

nathangibson commented 7 years ago

Actually with @resp don't need reason

wlpotter commented 2 years ago

Note to self/selves: we are currently using a <title type="supplied" xml:lang="en">Unspecified contents</title> for most of these situations.

This issue will be good to keep in mind as we start harmonizing the data models from various project phases -- it will give fodder for finding and replacing in files. @davidamichelson

wlpotter commented 2 years ago

@davidamichelson transferred to bl-data repo. I'm not sure what action, if any, is needed here. I will run a few find-in-files searches to see how many titles have 'missing', etc.

wlpotter commented 2 years ago

No cases of 'missing' or @reason. We have 641 cases of using @resp, 506 of which are on tei:title elements. I think, though, we eventually moved away from this in favor of using either "Unspecified contents" or the "Part x" when Wright gives only the rubric of a sub-item, and we put the outline numeral or letter in place of the 'x'.

In general, we need to decide on our general title format, and what adaptations we want to use to indicate when we have supplied a title not in Wright.

wlpotter commented 2 years ago

One final note here. Of the issues linked to this one, only https://github.com/srophe/srophe-app-data/issues/651 will potentially need review. That issue says to use "Part of X" as the title in cases where Wright does not give an English title, like for individual letters in a collection where he might just give the Syriac rubrics. Another, more recent, practice was to use the "Part x", so we will want to normalize.

I think that relevant to our decision here is the LOD context where we want to include enough information in the individual items that they can be understood apart from their parent context? So we would probably want to review the "Part x" type of titles and (machine-?) add their enclosing contexts, e.g. "Part 1 of the Letters of Severus" -- though even that is still unclear.