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creating classes, or supercategories, for testimonia #186

Open josephrife opened 1 year ago

josephrife commented 1 year ago

OK guys, after much thought I have decided we need supercategories for testimonia, which I would call "Class" (es). I hope you agree. This is because users (I think?) will be interested in browsing/searching broad classes of testimonia that are in terms of material, composition, content, and even thought-worlds and traditions and modes of consumption/reading, significantly different--and these classes align with traditions and skill-sets of scholarship. They would be the following: Class: Literature [by far most testimonia] Class: Document>Inscription Class: Document>Graffiti, dipinti, instrumenta domestica Class: Document>Papyrus Class: Document>Law Class: Document>Map Now "Class" is a separate ontology (right word?) than what I would call "Type" (or we can switch "Class" and "Type" here?)--I think of "Type" as what might traditionally (e.g. TLG) be called "Genre", but it might I submit be wise to steer sway from "Genre" because it would seem to carry the baggage of longstanding traditional classifications of literary sources, with their own embedded purposes, and to carry the flavor of literary-cultural criticism. "Type" could be things like (we talked about this before) "Hagiography," "Epic Poetry," "Itinerary" (or Pilgrims' Account) etc. Those "Type" s could of course crosscut the ontologies "Class" and "Type", because one can imagine perhaps quotations from or fragments from a "Hagiography" showing up on a papyrus found in Lower Egypt. I can also imagine certain "Types" that we create in the future pertaining chiefly to Class: Document>Inscription such as "Epitaph" showing up in written sources, if they are quoted e.g. in historical narratives. But those cases would be rareties. The point is that "Class" and "Type" are separate ontologies. I am not sure whether all these musings make sense or are not appropriate to this GitHub dialog medium?? thx Joe

wlpotter commented 1 year ago

@josephrife I think posting this to GitHub is perfectly fine as a dialog medium. I will have to take a closer look at your comments on Friday when I get a chance. But I think it's worth discussing (most likely more efficient to discuss at a meeting and log our decisions in the GitHub issue), and it is great to have your initial thoughts.

Note to self: related to #156 and the Google sheet linked in #181 ; the literature, document, etc. is related to #155

davidamichelson commented 1 year ago

@josephrife We like this but there are some conceptual issues that Library Science has a different take on from Classicists and so we will need to sort of reconcile the two approaches (for what the librarians do see https://www.oclc.org/research/activities/frbr.html). So to take the easiest approach before the roll out, could we just use the macro classes: Literary Testimonia and Documentary Testimonia for now and then wrestle with the rest later?

josephrife commented 1 year ago

OK sounds good JOe

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@josephrifehttps://github.com/josephrife We like this but there are some conceptual issues that Library Science has a different take on from Classicists and so we will need to sort of reconcile the two approaches (for what the librarians do see https://www.oclc.org/research/activities/frbr.html). So to take the easiest approach before the roll out, could we just use the macro classes: Literary Testimonia and Documentary Testimonia for now and then wrestle with the rest later?

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