Any plans to retry?

[aronze]

Unfortunately, yes. We have not any plans yet. Most of contributors have thought we're also going to fail if we'll try to have same plans.

[jason-heo]

Welcome and thank you for your concerns.

We need at least 100 commitments committed by users who has +200 rep. to pass the commitment step. Unfortunately it seems that there exist only 230 such users. ( http://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/210728/200-users-who-seem-to-speak-korean)

That's why our last trial has been failed. IMO, I think it's better to wait until there are enough +200 users (maybe 500 users?)

Thanks.

[coffeeshopcoder]

Since we already have atleast 200+ people who want a Korean version of stackoverflow, why don't we build one ourselves? I'm willing to contribute what I can in PHP, MySQL, html, css, js, ...

[aronze]

@coffeeshopcoder Yes, we can make one, and actually there are already so many SO clone sites in Korean. But other sites don't ask to user why they're use that.(authentication, reliability,..) So, if we make new one, we have to ask why they are use it.

On the other hand, so many people supported SOK. Because they just want to use Stack Overflow in Korean.

[coffeeshopcoder]

@aronze I think the main issue is that existing SO clones are mostly just simple bulletin board systems and do not have an elaborate point based schema to ensure the quality of questions and answers. Also the SEO performance on such sites is close to null. One of the reasons SO is so successful is that their posts rank really high on search results. I think if we can do this right, it could be a really interesting project.

[aronze]

@coffeeshopcoder Half agree. First of all, I thought same thing. After I was suggest SOK, I can talk to so many people to want SOK. They just want to use SO in Korean. SO system is not all about.

For now, If we can make a exactly same site, I think users do not move to our sites. "Don't reinvent the wheel." SO is already there. Why am I use to new SO? Just I can to use in Korean?

I think if we'll make new SO, it is more over then SO. Of course, if then, it is no more remaining in Korean.

[outsideris]

I agree with @aronze . IMO, So's search results are very high because SO is so soccessful.

[coffeeshopcoder]

@aronze @outsideris OK, I get your point. I guess I'll have to think about things a bit more.

[jinahya]

Why the hell, buy the way, are you guys talkin' in English? What kind of thought like this, "Wow, these guys can live without SOK anyway." Sorry, I shouldn't use English in the first place.

I was shocked when I saw the result indicating only 230 people (not 230k people) related with Korean/Seoul.

최소 100분 혹은 그 이상의 참여수가 보장되어야 한다면 사전에 확실한 분들을 먼저 모셔놓고 다시 시도하면 어떨까요? (과거 이력을 모르는지라, 이미 이렇게 하셨을 수도 있습니다만...)

감사합니다.

[jason-heo]

@jinahya 벌써 2번째 실패다보니 좀 조심스러워집니다. SO에 메시징 시스템이 있으면 좋겠지만, 그런 것이 없다보니 230분에게 일일히 연락드리기도 어렵네요.

작년 7월에는 200넘는 user가 164명이었었나보네요. (https://github.com/stackoverflow-in-korean/sok/wiki/user-invitation-chat-room) 이 분들에게 일일히 채팅방 요청보낸 후, 입장하신 분들에게는 commit 요청을 드렸었습니다.

그런데 채팅 요청은 SO에 접속을 해야 noti가 되다보니 채팅방 입장 비율이 떨어지는 것 같습니다. 그리고 채팅 요청 자체를 스팸으로 느끼는 분이 계시기도 하고요.

200넘는 분 100분 모을 수만 있다면 다시 시도해도 좋을 것 같습니다. 모이신 분들에게 연락을 쉽게할 수 있는 방법도 필요하고요.

[jinahya]

Facebook 페이지를 하나 만들어서 추진하는 것이 더 효과적일 수도 있겠네요.

[jason-heo]

@jinahya FB에 페이지 하나 만들어서 좋아요 490명 모아두긴했습니다. 의외로 SOK에 반감 가진 사람도 있어서 SOK를 직접 홍보하기 보다는 SO에 재미있는 내용 있으면 공유하면서 중간 중간 SOK 이야기도 꺼냈었죠.

sok 실패 이후로 FB 페이지 활동이 많이 줄었습니다. https://www.facebook.com/kr.stackoverflow

[aronze]

@coffeeshopcoder We already had talked about this in Tweeter. If you're interesting this and can read in Korean, see following link: https://github.com/stackoverflow-in-korean/sok/wiki/Twit-History