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TryMyUI reviewer question: differentiated audiences #1

Closed GinaAbrams closed 5 years ago

GinaAbrams commented 5 years ago

Current problem: the audience is not differentiated per app.

Future solution: app devs can qualify for users who have used competitor products and / or easily hone in on their main audience.

stackatron commented 5 years ago

Per our call with TryMyUI yesterday we are going to experiment with gathering some specific audience data from app devs and seeing how easily we can translate it into the process.

stackatron commented 5 years ago

Waiting on feedback from devs.

hstove commented 5 years ago

We opened a forum thread, but didn't get much actionable feedback. Next step is to reach back out with a more specific ask.

stackatron commented 5 years ago

https://forum.blockstack.org/t/app-mining-trymyui-audiences/7397

Not getting much input on this from App Miners, moving to icebox.

jyudkin1 commented 5 years ago

There are a few issues here - besides the end user problem, some apps are solving business solutions, have active users and are not fit for general audiences.

I fundamentally disagree with the idea of building a mass market product for the 99% from the launch - it goes against every ethos in building and learning. Build for a small sub segment of your target, learn, improve, expand into new segments.

The sample size is incredibly small - which is not great... possibly having a 100 testers solves this?

The main issue here is that for forms.id we received feedback that was incredibly useless. For example, "I didn't completely understand the whole concept of the website, but it was probably my fault since I didn't really read the descriptions in the main menu of the website" "The pictures were unappealing to me."

Finally - we need to optimize for edge cases. So if someone is using IE or whatever environment, it kills the score.

Also ... If they can't auth into blockstack for whatever reason, again - the rest of the score is hurt.

Just some issues that the community of miners are likely thinking.

avthars commented 5 years ago

Any level of picking who reviews the app would be great. The only current criteria is if they have a real email address.

cryptocracy commented 5 years ago

I've Linked #74 that dovetails with this issue.

stackatron commented 5 years ago

Seems like there is some renewed interest here. This is the thread: https://forum.blockstack.org/t/app-mining-trymyui-audiences/7397/16

Would prefer to continue the discussion here. My original request would still be helpful from my perspective:

Only allow testers who are ____ .

The blank is one personal descriptor and it can be professional, personal, societal, etc.

For example: Only allow testers who are computer programers. Only allow testers who are lawyers. Only allow testers who are office workers. Only allow testers who are college/university students. Only allow testers who are parents.

stackatron commented 5 years ago

Spoke with TryMyUI again. We can try another approach here: 3 competitive or similar products.

Have you currently or previously used _______, _______, or _______ ?

So, for example, Graphite's might look like:

Have you currently or previously used Google Docs, Dropbox Paper, or Notion?

Please reply in this thread and supply the products for your app, then Try My UI will run a test. 🙏

dantrevino commented 5 years ago

NoteRiot: Have you currently or previously used Google Keep, Evernote, or Apple Notes.

cryptocracy commented 5 years ago

Cryptocracy: Have you currently or previously used Kickstarter, GoFundme, or Indiegogo?

muneebm commented 5 years ago

XOR Drive: Google Drive, Dropbox, or Box

avthars commented 5 years ago

Spoke with TryMyUI again. We can try another approach here: 3 competitive or similar products.

Have you currently or previously used _______, _______, or _______ ?

So, for example, Graphite's might look like:

Have you currently or previously used Google Docs, Dropbox Paper, or Notion?

Please reply in this thread and supply the products for your app, then Try My UI will run a test. 🙏

Afari: Have you currently/ previously used groups in GroupMe, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp?

jackveiga commented 5 years ago

Recall: Have you currently or previously used Google Photos, Dropbox or Flickr?

jyudkin1 commented 5 years ago

forms.id: Have you currently or previously used Google Forms, Typeform or SurveyMonkey?

charlottelucyhall commented 5 years ago

Zinc

@jeffdomke we feel competitor apps are too niche to have been tested previously but here goes:

Have you currently or previously used Xref, SkillSurvey or Outmatch?

We would be happy for data conscious individuals/ hr managers/ recruiters to be reviewing our app :)

ghost commented 5 years ago

Utilo: Have you previously used Quora, Reddit, or Steemit?

ferrucc-io commented 5 years ago

keep in touch (kit) have you currently or previously used the Airtable Personal CRM, Affinity CRM or Monica CRM?

polluterofminds commented 5 years ago

Graphite - have you currently or previously used Google Docs or Dropbox Paper?

Graphite Publishing - have you currently or previously used WordPress or Ghost blogging solutions?

charlottelucyhall commented 5 years ago

@jeffdomke what will the default be if no-one has used any of the similar products?

brunohq commented 5 years ago

Blockvault: "Have you currently or previously used 1Password, LastPass, or KeePass?"

andresousa commented 5 years ago

Scannie: have you currently or previously used Scannable, Adobe Scan or Scanner App?

bodymindarts commented 5 years ago

Misthos: Casa Keymaster, Electrum Multisig, Copay.io

trotolo commented 5 years ago

Hi all, Tim from TryMyUI here. This is a great start!

For apps that have well-known, widely-used competitors (e.g. Google Photos, Dropbox, Kickstarter etc.) this should work very smoothly. Please make sure that the 3 competitors you list are the ones with the broadest user base in your space.

In cases where the space is still pretty new and kind of niche, even the main competitors (if there are any) may have a small and hard-to-find audience. What I would suggest is, instead of giving competitors, think of products or services that would be indicative of someone who'd be interested in your app.

For example - if you were making an app for indexing and mapping hiking trails, we could target people who use REI, Backcountry, and Patagonia. These would be pretty reliable indicators of someone likely to use a hiking app.

talhasch commented 5 years ago

Lander: About.me, WiseIntro, Carrd

fiatexodus commented 5 years ago

Stealthy.IM: "Have you currently or previously used Signal, Telegram, or Messenger?"

charlottelucyhall commented 5 years ago

Broader options for Zinc: Indeed, Fiverr, Upwork

stackatron commented 5 years ago

@trotolo checking in on this, any progress on testing these in your platform? Would be ideal to get some feedback soon so we can consider this for May. Thx.

kkomaz commented 5 years ago

debut: Have you currently or previously used duckduckgo, brave, or twitter

ViniciusBP commented 5 years ago

BitPatron: Have you currently or previously used Patreon, Bitcoin, or Reddit

stackatron commented 5 years ago

Email requesting the final audiences was sent out and this change will affect the May ranking. Moving this issue to done. Thanks for your input everyone.

dantrevino commented 5 years ago

@jeffdomke @GinaAbrams how do i update my target apps?

GinaAbrams commented 5 years ago

please email trotolo@trymyui.com 🙏