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My opinion is to point towards one unique citation with DOI for the purpose of item 2.
I am in favor of not having a zenodo DOI for each issue, but having a guideline on the citations instructions that "users should strive to make analyzes reproducible by providing a Stan version along with technical details of the computing environment while citing Stan"
Agh, journals and their need for DOIs, how does one cite tweets, discourse posts, etc.? Anyway, I agree with @storopoli about one unique DOI.
- for many journals, citations need DOIs - we should look into getting DOIs for Stan releases from zenodo - https://about.zenodo.org
Aside from a (medical) journal editor. I don't know of any journal that refuses to receive citations without DOIs. However, DOIs do make it much easier for authors and journals to agree something (else than an article or book) belongs in the references list. Moreover, having DOIs might make it easier to have consistent citation practices, as Zotero (and Mendley? EndNote?) can pull metadata from CrossRef and, IIRC, DataCite.
Thanks, @leofontenelle.
Zotero (and Mendley? EndNote?) can pull metadata from CrossRef
That sounds really useful. Google Scholar's citations are a mess.
Aside from a (medical) journal editor. I don't know of any journal that refuses to receive citations without DOIs.
Me, either, but there are a lot of folks in biomedicine using Stan.
Aside from a (medical) journal editor. I don't know of any journal that refuses to receive citations without DOIs.
Me, either, but there are a lot of folks in biomedicine using Stan
Sorry for my English. What I meant was, I don't know of any journal requiring DOI for inclusion in the references list. That was an aside from me, a medical journal editor.
Interesting. I had heard from biomedical researchers that the journals were super picky about what could be included as a reference, but if nobody requires DOIs, then I'm obviously misremembering. Maybe it was something about PubMed? But that doesn't seem right, either.
Indeed, many are picky, but I don't know of any journal that require DOIs from journal articles to include them in the references list. Its more like (a) some want the DOI to be included in the references if available; and (b) if something is not a journal article, having a DOI makes both authors and journals more comfortable including it in the references. But there are too many journals out there, I work with clinical medicina and public health (not biomedicine) and I'm from a Latin American country, not Western.
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Em Qui 8 set. 2022, às 17:55, Bob Carpenter escreveu:
Interesting. I had heard from biomedical researchers that the journals were super picky about what could be included as a reference, but if nobody requires DOIs, then I'm obviously misremembering. Maybe it was something about PubMed? But that doesn't seem right, either.
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how to cite Stan? is a FAQ - cf https://discourse.mc-stan.org/t/how-to-cite-stan/28779
for many journals, citations need DOIs - we should look into getting DOIs for Stan releases from zenodo - https://about.zenodo.org
the project would benefit from having single citation, because funding agencies want to use simple metrics
but reproducible science would benefit from citations to the specific version used
we need clear guidelines on how do cite Stan as well as how to record the specifics of the experiment and results.