Closed ripienaar closed 12 years ago
Are these of any interest, relevant, or helpful?
http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4550
http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-users@openssl.org/msg00760.html
Kind of - I did think it's related to the BEGIN line from the cert. The problem is the gem doesnt take a cert I provide it you create those on demand dont you?
https://github.com/morellon/stomp/blob/master/lib/stomp/connection.rb#L625-650
Enabling those settings is a pull request I do want to send you but I am running the normal release that does not read a cert from disk so there isn't much I can tweak here as far as I can tell
I was troubled by the word 'sometimes' and hoped that those links might provide examples to easily recreate.
I surely admit that the SSL open logic is ........ very basic.
My 'guess' has always been that this:
ctx.verify_mode = OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE
meant the no real verification was done by either side - i.e. no certs expected anywhere on the wire. I may be totally off base with that thinking.
I do not see 'VERIFY_NONE' in any Rdocs I have available. I do see the definitions in 'ossl_ssl.c' in the Ruby distro:
ossl_ssl_def_const(VERIFY_NONE);
ossl_ssl_def_const(VERIFY_PEER);
ossl_ssl_def_const(VERIFY_FAIL_IF_NO_PEER_CERT);
ossl_ssl_def_const(VERIFY_CLIENT_ONCE);
Thiago - do know anything about SSL? Those commented out lines in the gem were added by you in late 2009 .......
Pienaar - Are you looking for a two-way handshake, or just one way? And yes, with the gem code like it is, there is not much you can tweak it would seem. Are you using a gem with the comments removed?
I'll do some research .... probably this weekend.
I am using your released code exactly at the moment so no patches or uncommented lines.
this isn't urgent - I've known of this bug for years - but it would be nice to get sorted and now I have some more time and I have access to 1000s of servers to recreate the problem.
It would be good to get to a point where only clients with valid CA certs - signed by a private CA perhaps - could connect to ActiveMQ, but I confess I do not yet know much about what is possible with ActiveMQ so I cant say what would be appropriate for the Gem yet.
Some general comments here.
Have you made any progress in reliably recreating the original problem with a relatively simple test?
I have confirmed that the current use of VERIFY_NONE in the ssl context causes the following to occur:
VERIFY_NONE really ignores many (perhaps all) errors that occur around authentication.
AMQ configuration: if AMQ is configured with a valid keystore and truststore it will attempt to authenticate to the client. And the current use of VERIFY_NONE ignores that.
General support of SSL should support four cases:
With the current GEM, the first one listed is what is used.
One of the challenges around this is that the physical structure of Java store types is not the same and not compatible with OpenSSL stores.
Another challenge will be to consider the best way for clients to request any one of the four options. The comments show using environment variables. I have mixed feelings about that.
I currently have a gem test bed that uses mutual/two-way auth with AMQ. It took a while to get that up and running.
I will document some of the nuances of AMQ set up and requirements for the gem at length, probably on a Wiki page here.
Not with simple code no, but I've gotten to a point where with my complex setup I can break it reliably and know what combination of settings triggers that so I am going to work backward from there to get something that reproduces.
Been a bit snowed under this past week but it's on my list to get to the bottom of as its quite critical for me.
FWIW - the 'no start line' error:
Does not emanate from:
Does emanate from:
And I think it is looking for ( or at ) a:
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
line.
Food for thought: I read in one report that if one had cut and pasted this from browser to editor, the result might have spaces at the end of this line, which could also result in the error message.
Sure, but as we discovered we're not actually using any certificates read from any files so that excludes any copy/paste issues
That was my original thinking yes, but I now think it is incorrect. Observation tells me otherwise and that:
To show this, modify the gem, and after the line in connection.rb that says:
ssl.connect
Add only these lines:
puts ssl.verify_result
puts ssl.peer_cert
puts ssl.peer_cert.public_key
That data is on the wire at least at the beginning of the connection. And presumably is originally read by the OpenSSL libraries.
Does this problem occur later in a session? Has the connection been idle for lengthy times?
Oh interesting, that's good to know.
My observation tends to be that I only get it under load - say I log in and expect 50 messages incmoing of reasonable size, the connection reset happens after say 20 or 30 messages.
It's not just that simple though since I cant just reproduce it by shoving a lot of stuff into a queue and subscribing, it might be related to contents of the stomp messages.
I will go check whats in my keystores exactly, thats a very good observation.
Checking your keystores is a good idea, it can not hurt. However .....
I am puzzled because this apparently does not occur on 'connect', only later in a session.
yes, I've never seen it right on connect.
A note regarding the four flags allowed for verify mode in an SSL context.
These come directly from the OpenSSL implementation itself. I can find nowhere in Ruby code that there is any real documentation of the behavior expected from these flags.
However, OpenSSL documentation on this is another matter. A fairly good explanation of these flags can be found here:
I know enough about this now that I will be able to replace the comments in SSL connection code, and provide connection ability to use any of the four cases listed above for general SSL capabilities.
You will see commit(s) to that effect in the reasonably near future.
At that time, I will provide examples of SSL use as well.
I will concurrently add documentation to the wiki regarding the nuances of setting up server key and trust stores for this using AMQ, and using cert data in the client.
This does not get any of us closer to being able to reproduce the problem you originally describe.
One addendum to what is indicated in the previous message.
There will be restrictions around what is involved:
hmm, even if we added the CA that self signed that certs into the keystore?
I think that would be a massive hurdle to adoption
No, not quite.
I will provide docs on adding one or more CA certs to the stores required. For clients you can create your own CA if deemed necessary, and sign client certs using your CA. Or for servers as well. I will provide examples of that on the wiki.
The point is: the certs must be signed - by your privately created CA, by some private CA you simply trust, or by some 'well known' CA. You will need to have the CA's cert to use this.
Re: self signed certs .... I know browsers allow you to wiggle through this. But right now, I think it is a huge security risk for this gem to allow clients to say 'just accept self signed certs' if the caller asks for it. Allowing certs from a CA that:
alleviates that to some extent at least.
If I am wrong in that thinking ..... convince me please.
No, I am happy to accept that a CA is needed as long as users own CA can be used in that role :)
thanks for clarification
I have made some progress with both code and wiki pages. Review at your leisure please.
What JRE version(s) are you running?
'keytool' has added functionality from 1.5 -> 1.6.
openjdk 1.6, I think thesedays its perfectly OK to expect people to be on 1.6
I'll review wiki etc during the week, thanks a lot
Wiki, gem code, and examples all done. Current state at HEAD of master is close to what will go out for SSL in 1.2.1.
Somewhere above you said: "expect maybe 50 messages of reasonable size". Could you:
I am speculating ...... no real idea if this is important.
Yeah, example headers:
{"expires"=>"0", "timestamp"=>"1330904173389", "content-type"=>"text/plain; charset=UTF-8", "priority"=>"4", "message-id"=>"ID:svcs1.devco.net-39490-1329136152174-5:111823:-1:1:2045", "content-length"=>"6741", "destination"=>"/queue/mcollective.reply.29119"}
It looks like these might not be base64 encoded, I'll try encode them and see if it improves matters. I can reliably reproduce it now - after 23 or so of the messages above I get the error, it auto reconnects and then continues
I see nothing unusual about those headers. Or the message length. Was wondering if we were talking about 1M+ message sizes.
I will be very surprised if this is related to base64 encoding.
Is there any debugging you think I could add or packet captures or anything that might help us narrow it down? It does all look normal to me too
I have been pondering what I could add to perhaps a test gem that might give us more information. And am at a loss as to what might be added.
Have looked at this enough to know that the error is emanating from OpenSSL code, as I indicated previously. I have been staring at that C code off and on all day. The only place I can positively identify where that error is set looks like a "hard I/O error" to me: a read is issued and nothing comes off the wire.
One thing that certainly baffles me: why is a cert expected by the SSL code during an ongoing session? I always thought the cert exchanges happened only once, at the beginning of a connection sequence. And we seem to be long past that. I can find no documentation anywhere that suggests cert exchanges in the middle of a good connection.
I hate to think about packet traces. Am not sure I would understand what I am looking at very well. Or without a lot of study .... If you want to gather some, please go ahead. We can look at them at any rate.
Personally I think this is a OpenSSL problem/bug, at least right now. I can not find any OpenSSL issues list. Or even any real discussion list.
If you are willing you might try the following:
Modify connection.rb, and in the log_params method add one line:
lparms[:socket] = @socket
You will then see that parameter in your logger call backs.
It should be an SSL socket. And so in the callback you should be able to:
puts parms[:socket].verify_result
puts parms[:socket].peer_cert
I do not think "verify_result" is going to tell us much, but I would like to see what it is.
When this occurs, is there anything of interest in:
$ACTIVEMQ_HOME/logs/activemq.log
$ACTIVEMQ_HOME/logs/wrapper.log
??
From activemq logs I just get this, which seems normal since after the error the gem disconnects:
2012-03-05 12:43:32,849 [8:0:0:0:3:43972] INFO Transport - Transport failed: java.io.EOFException
When I add your extra params and print them I get
`on_miscerr' Unexpected error on connection stomp://rip@stomp:6164: receive failed: SSL_read:: no start line `on_miscerr' 19 `on_miscerr' -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIEpzCCA4+gAwIBAgIBdTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCBgTETMBEGA1UEAxMKUGlu . . -----END CERTIFICATE-----
And indeed as you expected it's not about base64, same behavior with or without encoded payloads
Grunt.
There are 2 possible 'good' values for 'verify_result':
0 == All cert checks complete with no errors 20 == Server sent cert, client did not authenticate, connection allowed to proceed
So ...... From the Ruby source:
19 == OpenSSL::X509::V_ERR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT_IN_CHAIN
I am not exactly sure what to make of that, but it is a new clue. Comments?
What is in AMQ's keystore? (Not interested in the truststore here.)
If it is not too 'proprietary' can you show me the output of:
keytool --list --keystore broker.ks -v
?
Nothing special in there: https://gist.github.com/1982515
I search/replaced some key words.
and indeed this is a self signed cert - have a valid CA of course, I can try add the ca to my machine wide CA list in /etc/pki, not sure if the gem cares for those
strace shows ruby reading this...which is a list of all my known CAs
open("/etc/pki/tls/cert.pem", O_RDONLY) = 4
So I added the CA that signed that ActiveMQ cert to that file but this didnt change anything, suspect I'll need to set some of the settings in your new code .
but if it's this I'd expect it to break not 20 or 30 packets into the connection
I see nothing unusual about the keystore. Truth: I do not really understand 'chaining' but that is another matter, and study for another day I think.
I would not expect this failure to occur even 1 message exchange into the connection, much less 20-30. It should occur on connect if at all I think. That is the baffling aspect of this.
Do you think there anything unusual about that strace output? I do not. That did point out something I am thinking about:
on my Ubuntu system I would expect to see /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt in strace output but I do not. Instead I see:
open("/usr/lib/ssl/cert.pem", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
Connections proceed or fail as I expect regardless.
I do not see what the new code might buy us here .... but you can pull and build or can throw you a test gem over the wall. Let me know.
Looks to me like Ruby 1.8.5 and 1.8.6 do not have the following field:
OpenSSL::SSL::SSLSocket#verify_result
I will need to code around that when passing back connect results.
It would vary based on whatever you've got compiled in so for me :
% openssl version -a
OPENSSLDIR: "/etc/pki/tls"
which means it would have compiled in defaults to /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem to get the list of known certs. I guess :)
Anyway, as you say, keystore looks fine, this shouldnt happen mid connection should really happen before the socket is properly opened even, its weird...
I thought with your new code I'd specifically add the new ca into the client but not needed since I added it to my default CAs list, so indeed, not sure much will be gained there.
I did try strace to see if I can figure out what is happening, annoyingly this is not happening under strace!
Turns out that here /usr/lib/ssl has symlinks to what I expect in /etc/ssl. But there is no 'cert.pem' file or link.
That strace output must have been massive. Sorry to hear that did not work out.
I think adding the CA to the client with the new code is a good test. It might change the behavior of the libraries later in the test.
I copied the cert data I am using to a CentOS VM, and the examples run as I expect.
Copied to Win7, also a VM, and everything fails. I will deal with that later.
Will try OSX in a little bit.
For the record the examples results at present:
OSX 10.7.1, Ruby 1.9.2p180 - all PASS Win7, Home Premium, Ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-09) [i386-mingw32] - all FAIL CentOS 5.6, Ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) - all PASS
On Ubuntu 11.10 I have:
1) 185_231 (2008-06-20 patchlevel 231) - all PASS 2) 186_383 (2009-08-04 patchlevel 383) - all PASS 3) 187_000 1.8.7 (2008-04-15 patchlevel 0) - not tested 4) 187_299 (2010-06-23 patchlevel 299) - all PASS 5) 191_378 1.9.1p378 (2010-01-10) - all PASS 6) 192_188 1.9.2p188 (2011-03-28 revision 31204) - all PASS 7) 193_134 1.9.3p134 (2012-02-19 revision 34690) - all FAIL 8) ruby 2.0.0dev (2012-02-12 trunk 34563) - all FAIL
I am not too concerned about the bloody edge of the 2.0.0 trunk. But that 1.9.3 result is a bit surprising.
I looked at the above for a bit, thought about the revisions, and then on the Ubuntu box ran a build of:
ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-04 revision 32477) [x86_64-linux]
And .... example test results: all FAIL
My initial conclusion is that something sure as heck happened with Ruby SSL ..... on trunk first, was merged into the 1.9.2 branch, and is still on trunk.
This is interesting, and I document it here for posterity:
Doing some testing of the new SSL stuff in 1.2.1 to see if using some of the use cases removes my problem, thus far up to use case 3 only.
I was wondering how error reporting is handled with the ssl connections? I think I must just be missing something.
For example when I give the incorrect/missing CA file:
ssl_params = Stomp::SSLParams.new(:ts_file => servers_CA_cert)
I'd need some way to notify my users that they did this. The Connection#socket method though that uses open_socket will catch all exceptions and not provide me any of the errors the SSL library raised even errors like Stomp::Error::SSLNoTruststoreFileError will go unreported back to the user
It's as if we need a on_misc_ssl_error or something that will also be passed an error message on these kinds of failures?
OK, with all use cases this happens.
I spent a lot of time getting to the bottom of this, it the SSL_read() C function will renegotiate when the server says its needed and I think its this renegotiation that fails we obviously cant affect that in our code
Anyway, so then I did a ton of tests on other rubies and on 1.9.3 I simply cannot reproduce this at all! Seems some change in ruby migh have fixed this :(
Regarding the 'ssl error reporting' comment:
There may be some reasonable logic missing here. Your 'on_connectfail' callback is driven, correct? But there is no really useful information available in the params, correct?
Let me think about it, but if you have a reasonable solution, please ask for a pull.
Regarding the original problem:
I am not totally surprised that this happens with all use cases. That implementation needed to be done I think, but did not really address your original problem.
The info on the SSL_read C function is interesting. However, needless to say: We are not going to hack ruby builds as part of this gem.
It is interesting that you say 'other rubies and 1.9.3' do not reproduce the problem. My conclusion about that is that it is specific to:
Given that I am really unsure as to what to advise you about the original problem, other that to say: upgrade something!
As an aside: OpenSSL and Ruby versions are an absolute and utter mess at this point in time. I discovered that when trying to get all this SSL work done.
At some point in Ruby development, they discovered 'SSLv2' was 'bad'. They do development on 'trunk'. They disabled SSLv2 on 'trunk' and at some point that was merged into all of the 1.9.x branches.
Almost concurrently, some distributions (particularly Debian based), also discovered that SSLv2 was 'bad'. They disabled SSLv2 in subsequent OpenSSL builds.
Meanwhile, Ruby builds provided no way to say 'SSLv2 = yes/no'.
So 'old' Rubies will not build at all on a system with SSLv2 disabled. And newer Rubies insist that is must be disabled. And that is followed by people asking Ruby dev team to somehow optionally allow builds with SSLv2. Which they are trying to do on all 1.9.x branches I think. That may actually be done, but without docs.
All of that leaves folks like me in a hard place: I have Ruby builds (1.8.x) that were done against an OpenSSL that included V2. Those builds now cannot be recreated because my current OpenSSL has V2 disabled. If I build a local OpenSSL with V2 enabled and build Ruby, that seems to work. But it causes havoc with other applications, particularly 'git'. Something I can not live with.
Grouch, grouch, grouch. I'll think about the ssl error reporting, and you should as well.
Sorry, I was not clear - I mean other rubies does it, 1.9.3 does not (that was the only 1.9.x I tried).
This has been reported by each of my users who tried SSL + Stomp on all sorts of OS/distro/version etc, its widespread. So not unique to my environment at all.
I'll script up something to do a lot of git bisect tests first of the ruby releases to identify the one that fixes it and then its commits to track it down.
Agree this is most likely not something we can fix in the stomp gem :( I found http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4550 interesting and backported the fix there, no change - I know we're not reading keys in the stomp gem after initializing but I do read keys in my code and that might be exactly it.
I'll open another issue for the ssl logging
What 1.9.3 patch level did you use that does not show the problem?
Does 1.9.3 patch level 0 show that bug? I would try that first to get a 'bad' for bisect.
If you can find the commit that alleviates your problem, perhaps the gem can 'code around' it for some Ruby instances.
I have to ask ..... what are you doing with public keys in your code? What is the purpose of that?
That fix for issue 4550 you mention above went on to trunk on Apr 5, 2011. Is is followed by a string of commits from same author that are related. In the Ruby repo mirror at http://github.com/ruby/ruby.git this starts at e61d269f343f and ends at dd11a58be3. I do not know if that is relevant, but if you only back ported the one commit that may not be enough.
A different issue for ssl logging would be good.
It was ruby-1.9.3-p0, I'll have a play next week around those commits thanks
The code in question is a RPC system, the RPC requests are encrypted (or signed) using a users key prior to transmission via stomp and on the receiving side validated/decrypted. So we do lots of RSA in the application that uses the gem.
If I use a security plugin in my code that doesnt use any RSA on my side but just simple pre-shared md5 based hashes then the problem does not appear on any ruby - so i am pretty confident its the bug I mentioned.
I'll test some more later
See if the latest push is usable for logging exceptions for SSL. Implements the 'on_ssl_connectfail' callback capability.
Your problem seems to be a 'SSL renegotiation' issue as it does not occur on initial connect.
This might be of interest to you:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/tlsreadme2-176330.html
So ..... the RPC requests are encrypted, and that encrypted request is sent in the Stomp message 'body'?
yes, we need to be able to securely identify the sender, so receivers have pubkeys and validate the signatures of the body
Thanks for the link to the oracle doc, I'll work through that
With unsafe reneg enabled via -Dsun.security.ssl.allowUnsafeRenegotiation=true it still happens, so thats with the mose insecure settings on the JVM
This is a issue I've noticed since very early releases, the reason I have not logged this before is that I do not know how to reproduce it reliably.
When connecting to ActiveMQ with SSL enabled I sometimes get the error logged (using the new callback loggers here)
This is from the __old_receive method on connection.rb, if I tweak the code to also log the exception class I get:
I think I am finally getting near to being able to reproduce this but only in a very complex piece of code, I've not been able to create a simple bit of code that demonstrates this.
do you guys have any idea what might be the cause of this that might assist me in creating a reliable test case for this behavior?