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Clarify "button to request green light" #1353

Closed camelCaseSucks closed 5 years ago

camelCaseSucks commented 5 years ago

I've never heard of drivers having to press a button for a green light, so I assume this is about crosswalks. If not, I have no idea what this is referring to. If so, it should say so, and it should not use the word "green" because crosswalk lights aren't green in the US.

rugk commented 5 years ago

because crosswalk lights aren't green in the US.

..., but?

camelCaseSucks commented 5 years ago

I don't know what that's supposed to mean. If I need to press a button for the crosswalk, I'm not pressing it for a green light. This wording is confusing. It should ask if you need to press a button for a crosswalk signal without specifying color.

Edit: were you just expressing confusion about us doing everything differently?

westnordost commented 5 years ago

Sorry, rugk's comments are often not helpful.

The question is supposed to ask if there is a buttons for pedestrians that they can press to, err, request that the cars need to stop and the pedestrians can go over the street.

Could you suggest a better US-English wording of the question?

Am 11. März 2019 08:59:14 MEZ schrieb camelCaseSucks notifications@github.com:

I don't know what that's supposed to mean. If I need to press a button for the crosswalk, I'm not pressing it for a green light. This wording is confusing. It should ask if you need to press a button for a crosswalk signal without specifying color. (I'm still assuming it's referring to a crosswalk because your 1-word comment didn't really clarify anything.)

rugk commented 5 years ago

Hey, sorry...

I thought you meant to imply there is a different color for the crosswalks or so.

I guess this is really just a bad translation from German, "to press for a green light to appear" or so.

But I agree the color can be dropped.

gdt commented 5 years ago

In the US: crosswalks are almost always white paint, cars go on green, speed up on yellow (in Boston :-), and stop on red. Lights facing pedestrians at crosswalks are white for "walk", flashing orange for "keep walking if you are crossing but don't start" (kind of like yellow lights for cars), and solid orange for "don't walk". Some of them cycle always, and some have buttons. Some crosswalks have no lights (no car lights, no pedestrian lights). Some have just car lights. Some have both.

"Is there a button to request an ok-to-cross signal?" would be how I'd write it for a wide audience. For just en_US, I would say "Is there a button to request a walk signal?"

But Ii don't expect non-native speakers or people in other countries to always call the signals "walk" and "don't walk"; while it seems near-universal in the US it feels a bit peculiar.

gdt commented 5 years ago

Probably this question should only be asked if it is known if there are pedestrian crossing lights. Otherwise, it's a 3-part

Does this not have lights to tell you that you can cross? have lights that always cycle? have lights and you need to push a button?

CloCkWeRX commented 5 years ago

Perhaps

Can pedestrians to request to cross? (ie: via a Button)

rugk commented 5 years ago

Some have just car lights.

Slightly off-topic, but I wonder whether this is/can be even mapped on OpenStreetMap? Note this may alos be important/releveant for StreetComplete for the "crossing quest", where you can also select "controlled" crossing or "uncontrolled"... 🤔

If this is an issue, it should possibly be discussed in a new issue.