Is it allowed to walk along this street?

[kuba-orlik]

General

Affected tag(s) to be modified/added: foot Question asked: Is it allowed to walk along this street?

• no - Access on foot or by pedestrians is prohibited or impossible
• Yes, on a sidewalk mapped separatetely**
• Yes, it's designated for pedestrians

The end goal is to avoid issues like https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/2610 and https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/2816

Checklist

Checklist for quest suggestions (see guidelines):

• [x] 🚧 To be added tag is established and has a useful purpose
• [x] 🤔 Any answer the user can give must have an equivalent tagging (Quest should not reappear to other users when solved by one)
• [x] 🐿️ Easily answerable by everyone from the outside but a survey is necessary
• [x] 💤 Not an overwhelming percentage of quests have the same answer (No spam)
• [x] 🕓 Applies to a reasonable number of map data (Worth the effort)

Ideas for implementation

Element selection: select element without a foot tag

[mcliquid]

This quest is already implemented the other way around:

And it depends on the local rules for streets (e g. StVO in Germany or Austria), but without an explicit sign that pedestrians are forbidden, it's legally fine to walk on a intersection of a highway=tertiary, secondary or something else :)

[matkoniecz]

The end goal is to avoid issues like https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/2610 and https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/2816

Do you know how such missing tagging can be efficiently added with JOSM? If you are interested in mapping missing data I can give some hints how to do this.

In general, mapping with SC is unlikely to be more efficient and likely to result in more mistakes by newbies.

[matkoniecz]

And for why existing quest is not asked far more often: see "AddProhibitedForPedestrians quest leads to bad OSM data" #2472

Maybe it would be a good candidate for a new overlay? (@westnordost what you think here? - it could be used by more experienced mappers wishing to fix such missing routing data)

EDIT: though there are more pressing things to do first https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions/4113#discussioncomment-3047634

[westnordost]

That would be a very specific overlay. In priority, I'd want to get more general overlays going first.

[kuba-orlik]

@mcliquid:

but without an explicit sign that pedestrians are forbidden, it's legally fine to walk on a intersection of a highway=tertiary, secondary or something else :)

Not in Poland, where if there's a sidewalk along the given part of the street, you can't walk on the street itself

@matkoniecz:

Do you know how such missing tagging can be efficiently added with JOSM? If you are interested in mapping missing data I can give some hints how to do this.

Currently I only have time for mapping while being idle during commute, so StreetComplete is the limit of what I can handle atm. If you have any hints at hand, I'd gladly read those and keep for future reference :)

[matkoniecz]

@kuba-orlik Note that substantial improvements here can be done using sidewalk layer: you can spot where sidewalk=separate is missing and mark it, what gives hint for routers.

Currently I only have time for mapping while being idle during commute, so StreetComplete is the limit of what I can handle atm. If you have any hints at hand, I'd gladly read those and keep for future reference :)

I would download data and use filters to exclude

• everything except roads
• roads with sidewalk=separate

and using TODO plugin, add everything to review and mark missing sidewalk=separate while reviewing ways one by one

Next I would select sidewalk=separate without foot=use_sidepath and again put it for review with TODO plugin and add this tag where missing and fix sidewalk values otherwise.

[kuba-orlik]

The sidewalk (labeled "Pavement" in my case) layer is great help indeed, thanks!