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Cycling on sidewalk (in both directions) answer is missing #5888

Open RubenKelevra opened 1 week ago

RubenKelevra commented 1 week ago

Thanks for adding back the differentiation of cycling on the sidewalk being allowed vs. a shared use sidewalk. (not sure when that happend, but it was missing a while)

However there's an option missing:

Cycling on the sidewalk is allowed in both directions - on none side. Meaning: Riding on the sidewalk is not a one way.

The equivalent of "shared use path" however has such an option:

Screenshot_2024-09-10-07-22-48-133-edit_de westnordost streetcomplete

Btw: Wouldn't shared use sidewalk not be less confusing here?

Use case We got sidewalks which are marked from both directions for usage with bikes:

Screenshot_2024-09-10-07-29-08-179-edit_com google android apps maps

Proposed Solution Just another button. Not sure about the tagging thought.

davidpnewton commented 6 days ago

"Btw: Wouldn't shared use sidewalk not be less confusing here?"

No. Sidewalk is a term specifically referring to a path next to a road. There are plenty of unsegregated cycle tracks that do not follow the route of a road and are thus not "sidewalk" in any sense of the meaning of the word.

RubenKelevra commented 6 days ago

"Btw: Wouldn't shared use sidewalk not be less confusing here?"

No. Sidewalk is a term specifically referring to a path next to a road. There are plenty of unsegregated cycle tracks that do not follow the route of a road and are thus not "sidewalk" in any sense of the meaning of the word.

I think you're missing the point here. The quest is regarding infrastructure along a road. So sidewalk is always the appropriate term here.

lgommans commented 12 minutes ago

there's an option missing:

Cycling on the sidewalk is allowed in both directions - on [one] side

I had this same problem yesterday. Not sure which I ended up picking anymore, also because the effect seems virtually identical: you can cycle on the same path as pedestrians can walk on, either because a sign says it's ok or because a sign says it's a shared path. I'm also not sure how to differentiate between a path where it says "cycling ok" but means it only for one direction, and one where the same sign means both directions.

We got sidewalks which are marked from both directions for usage with bikes:

The picture doesn't show anything that indicates both directions though? Since there is no oneway variant of it, it stands to reason that it means that, but honestly I wouldn't know