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[Feature Request] Ubuntu Subgraph OS Builds #261

Open ghost opened 7 years ago

ghost commented 7 years ago

With Ubuntu now going back to Gnome and systemd it seems beneficial for Subgraph OS as a project to consider using Ubuntu.

Benefits of Ubuntu over Debian:

  1. You get all the greatness of Debian as an upstream
  2. Often fresher packages which mean bug fixes and improvements to end users months before Debian has them
  3. Always a newer kernel
  4. Better hardware compatibility than Debian
  5. Many of the same people who do the heavy lifting in Debian work for Canonical on Ubuntu so really you're choosing between a conservative distro (Debian) and a progressive distro (Ubuntu) which tends to have faster updates and the latest and greatest. I know many of the people at Canonical who work on Debian and they almost always do their best work in Ubuntu first and then bring it upstream to Debian usually a full release later.

Ubuntu also has UEFI and Secureboot figured out and while I'm not sure how that works with people who fork or remix Ubuntu they might be willing to help Subgraph OS have ISO's that work with UEFI / Secureboot.

ghost commented 7 years ago

Fwiw on two laptops with RTL wifi chipsets I compared Subgraph OS to Xubuntu 17.10 and wifi signal was markedly better same position in office on Xubuntu than Subgraph (Debian Stretch) my guess is this is due to fresher wifi drivers from upstream. It looks like Debian hasn't updated theirs since November 2016 while Ubuntu has the latest.

intrigeri commented 7 years ago

FWIW, Tails generally ships the kernel & firmware from sid, and occasionally parts of the X.Org / Mesa stack from backports, which gives us hardware enablement that's essentially on par with Ubntu. See also https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/12615 that we'll decide about by the end of the year, but needless to say that requires good automated testing.