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Integrate into PyOpenSci for Our Affiliated package review #402

Open Cadair opened 10 months ago

Cadair commented 10 months ago

The goal of this issue is to formally identify and discuss the changes to our Affiliated package review system that would stem from integrating with pyopensci.


A refresher: SunPy Affiliated Packages

SEP 4

The basic concepts and requirements of SunPy's affiliated packages are documented formally by SEP-4, although that SEP does not specify how the packages should be reviewed.

SEP 4 spells out the purpose of the affiliated package system and why we have a review:

The primary purpose of the affiliated package system is to support software developers that provide additional tools and functionality that extends and builds upon the core library.

A review process ensures that affiliated packages provide useful functionality to the community at a standard of quality similar to the core SunPy package. This process also ensures that cross-compatibility is maintained throughout the SunPy ecosystem. The SunPy project will ensure that affiliated packages are maintained and publicized in order to encourage community development.

It also set's the following requirements for affiliated packages:

and, finally, some requirements for the review process:

Our Existing Review Criteria and PyOpenSci

We currently evaluate our packages on the following criteria:

Based on the PyOpenSci Peer Review Template [1] we could probably count the following of our sections as a subset of the PyOpenSci review:

Which leaves the following extra criteria we would want to add to the PyOpenSci Reviews:

Process Changes

Adopting the PyOpenSci Reviews would mean significant process changes, but this is also the main benefit as we don't have to maintain the whole process ourselves.

Main changes I can think of are below, however, I think this is the part where we would need to talk to the PyOpenSci people.

Changes Apparent to Users

Changes Apparent to Maintainers


[1] Is this really the authoritative source for the review criteria?

Cadair commented 10 months ago

@nabobalis @lwasser @wtbarnes These are my notes. I think we should discuss this here for a while, and then move to a PR rewriting our documentation for affiliated packages to formalise things more on our side?

If we feel we need to make substantive changes to SEP-4 for this to work out, we can, but I don't think we will have to.

lwasser commented 9 months ago

hi there @Cadair 👋 thank you for starting this conversation here! The above looks great at first glance. the one element i wanted to begin to hash out here was the annual re-review. I know that i discussed this with astropy as well.

Can you clarify what a re-review looks like and what the goals are on your end?

On our end, an annual full re-review is likely not possible just given the resources associated with a single review. BUT we did have this conversation with astropy where in their case, their re-review goals (they had not actually implemented this formally) were really more about long term maintenance rather than a full formal review.

As such we'd discussed creating some automated checks and badges in the future where we work together to track things like commit frequency and last commit, pr activity, issue activity, etc as ways to understand when a package becomes unmaintained. There is some language here in our peer review guide around archiving . There is a github discussion here around some of our policies associated with when a package might be considered "archived" that you might want to have a look at.

also note that we're planning to create pages for each partner where just your packages would be listed for additional SunPy community visibility.

We could talk about whether it would make sense to create a helio section on the site and have sub sections and filters for sunpy and PyHC or not too.