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Guidelines for Surface Syntactic Universal Dependencies
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UD->SUD translation for predicative adjectives #7

Open kimgerdes opened 4 years ago

kimgerdes commented 4 years ago

I think we have to modify the UD-SUD translation in case the adjective has dependents: http://match.grew.fr/?corpus=SUD_English-EWT@2.6&custom=5edeabd6e5e98 the dependents should to stay on the adjective, don't they?

perrier54 commented 4 years ago

There is no general rule. A sentence modifier must move to the head of sentence.

I am happy today In SUD : am -[mod]-> Today

A modifier of the adjective must stay on the adjective.

I am very happy In SUD : happy -[mod]-> very

The linguistically correct solution is to add lexical information to decide. An alternative is to enrich the UD annotation.

Remark : this issue is not put in its proper place. It needs to be transferred to : https://github.com/surfacesyntacticud/tools/issues

kimgerdes commented 4 years ago

Yes, thanks, you are right. But wouldn't there be a (possibly idiosyncratic) heuristics that could be used by order or category?

And there is also the thing that when "happy" has an object, this is correctly kept on the adjective: i'm happy that he came idem for comp:pred im happy to join whereas i'm happy about his arrival is moved to the aux.

Actually i don't understand what the grammar does. For example I'm pleased with the results keeps the PP on the ADJ. See http://match.grew.fr/?corpus=SUD_English-EWT@2.6&custom=5ee002cc65f33 Possibly only mod is moved up?

Remark : this issue is not put in its proper place. It needs to be transferred to : https://github.com/surfacesyntacticud/tools/issues Yes, that would have been better, but it's also about discussing what structure we want (and want to describe in the guidelines) before considering that this is a bug in the translation grammar.

perrier54 commented 4 years ago

When a complement is an argument of an adjective as in the examples given by @kimgerdes, the conversion between comp:obl or comp:obj and ccomp, xcomp or obl:arg works perfectly. In the example i'm happy about his arrival, we can consider the complement of the adjective rather as an argument than as a modifier.

The problem arises when the complement is a modifier. There is no way to distinguish a sentence modifier from an adjective modifier, except by using lexical information.

Julie921 commented 1 year ago

Can I close this issue ?

perrier54 commented 1 year ago

Decision: modifiers of predicative constructions in the form ((VERB | AUX )+ ADJ) are attached to the verb if they are sentence modifiers (temporal, locative, judgment ... modifiers), otherwise they arre attached to the adjective.

Correction of the treebanks: