[BUG] Setup Helper with Monster Pack: Koshchey & Kayran

[Kaligula0]

Please add information about adding Koshchey to Monster decks when Monster Pack is selected.

Please add information about adding Kayran to Monster decks when Monster Pack and Legendary Hunt are selected.

[Kaligula0]

From Monster Pack rulebook:

Koshchey: "During step 8 of the regular game setup, add the Koshchey card and its Monster token to the corresponding card piles. " + "(Koshchey and the Monster Trail Expansion) If you decide to play with the Monster Weakness and Special Attacks mode, add the large Koshchey card to the game components during the setup"

Kayran: "During step 2 of the Legendary Expansion setup, Players can choose Kayran"

[Kaligula0]

From Monster Pack Rulebook:

"Each of these Monsters can be used with the corresponding Expansion: Siren can be used with the Skellige Expansion; Kayran can be used with the Legendary Hunt Expansion; Koshchey can be used with the Mages Expansion

[swirle13]

The bottom of the monster roller page has an excerpt that explains which toggles add/remove monsters and which level the monster is, level 1, 2, 3, or legendary, and thus, which pool it will be added to when toggled.

The following is provided for both Monster Pack monsters, Koshchey and Kayran:

Monster Pack: Koshchey (Level III Monster), Kayran (Legendary). Siren excluded as it can't be randomly selected.

I removed a toggle for Mages (in this commit) for the Koshchey as it was a toggle for only that monster which complicated things, and I hadn't been able to find the requirement that Koshchey was only allowed to be played with the Mages expansion in my english rulebook (I posted a question about this in the discord), but I do see the reference in the digital rulebook uploaded by GoB, which you just referenced.

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But I digress... To address the confusion, I can add text following both monsters, qualifying which expansions they are allowed to be played with, but I hesitate to add a new switch for Mage expansion. Something like:

Monster Pack: Koshchey (Level III Monster, Mages expansion only), Kayran (Legendary, Legendary Hunt only). Siren excluded as it can't be randomly selected.

Though, legendary monsters can't be used without the legendary hunt expansion... 🤔

[Kaligula0]

… (I posted a question about this in the discord) …

And I see the question has no replies since :l I see one thread on BoardGameGeek about this confusion. There's unclear conclusion that it could be used without Mages, but would not be a 1:1 play like with other monsters.

I think you can forget the Mages toggle and add a disclaimer e.g. "Mages expansion only" or "probably Mages expansion only": Monster Pack: Koshchey (Level III Monster, Mages expansion only), Kayran (Legendary). Siren excluded as it can't be randomly selected. (We can also wait for more replies in above BGG thread).

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Nevertheless, that's not what I meant. I was talking about Setup Helper. I suggest that:

• Step 9 ("Set up Monsters" step when Mages and Monster Pack are selected) includes info about adding Koshchey, e.g. Sort Monster Cards and Monster Tokens by level (I, II, and III), including Koshchey. (…)
• Step 11 (Legendary Monster step when Legendary Hunt and Monster Pack are selected) includes info about adding Kayran, although this is harder for me to present an example 🤔 (…(remember about Kayran from Monster Pack) or …(also take Kayran into account)) 🤔