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syd711 / vpin-studio

Competition, table, and player management for VPins.
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Metallica high score not recognized correct file? #268

Closed ecchodun closed 3 months ago

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

Is this one not supported? The high scores showing in vpin-studio are not the ones in game. Also, the nvram file mtl_180hc shows last updated today (when I got a high score) Metallica HS2 the attached are not the ones on the game itself? Metallica HS

syd711 commented 3 months ago

I think this was was reported before somewhere on my Discord. The ROM mtl_180hc is marked as supported from pinemhi, but does not work. Iirc switch to ROM mtl_180h and it will work.

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

You mean switch the ROM in the high score data or in the table itself? I switched the ROM name above to mtl_180h and there's no change. Still the error in my first attachment.

syd711 commented 3 months ago

Sorry, I meant the ROM itself. I can ask on Discord again who did that change. But iirc you change the ROM name in the script to "mtl_180h", install the matching ROM and then it works.

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

But then I can't use the color ROM, no?

syd711 commented 3 months ago

Unfortunately no. I rely here on pinemhi and have no influence about which ROM values can be read or not. But did you tried it anyway?

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

I'm not sure I understand. If I load the game with the "hc" add-on, and that game shows my high score, why can't vpin-studio be triggered from that same high score table? If it's tied to the "h" rom, is there a way to allow the user to select the rom for the high score table of their choice?

syd711 commented 3 months ago

Not sure I got the last part, so I'll explain how the highscore extraction works:

The ROM file only contains the "operating system" of the the table with all default values. When you create a highscore or change the settings of the table, these settings will be written into a .nv RAM file. Since every ROM file creates a different .nv RAM file, the tool pinemhi.exe must know every .nv file individually. So even the slightest change requires some change for a successful extraction of the highscore from the .nv RAM file.

I assume the developer of pinemhi thought that the generated .nv file for the colored Metallica ROM can be read the same way like the non-colored, which is not the case.

I hope I haven't bored you with too many technical details ;)

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

No, you didn't bore me. :) So what you're saying is just the pinemhi software can't extract the high score data from the colored rom. It otherwise has nothing to do with your vpin-studio processes? That's too bad because my next question is what would make the colored rom high score table so different? Is the Metallica colored rom one of a kind or have you found others like this (e.g., is it an issue with Stern colored roms)? Thank you for the response.

syd711 commented 3 months ago

This Metallica ROM is so far the only ROM where pinemhi says, that is is supported, but it does not work. Of course, there may be more, but right now the tool support ~1200 tables, so ...

I sometimes check for updates on http://www.pinemhi.com/ Besides that, there is nothing I can do on my end, since I have no clue how to read the .nv files.

ecchodun commented 3 months ago

Thank you for taking the time for responding. You can close this issue.