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USB C Charging #9

Open aymswick opened 4 years ago

aymswick commented 4 years ago

Why/User Benefit/User Problem

One cable to rule them all - barrell connectors are bulky

Description of the feature

Offer enough usb-c ports to charge the laptop and still have one free for data transfer.

codeallstar commented 4 years ago

I second this. I would of bought a darter pro in the spring instead of a HP Elitebook. It would of saved me time wiping Win10 and loading Pop!_OS

RiderExMachina commented 4 years ago

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I prefer barrel connector chargers.

rakshith-ravi commented 4 years ago

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I prefer barrel connector chargers.

I'm curious, why do you prefer barrel connectors? Maybe you can give us a different opinion that'd open our minds?

ptanmay143 commented 4 years ago

I second this. Having a single type of charger for both my phone and my laptop would be a huge win for me.

Carreau commented 4 years ago

Two advantages of that on my current work laptop are: 1) I now have a charger port both on left and right of my machine. 2) You can daisy-chain charging which is useful for example at conferences where there are limited number of outlets.

tekkamanendless commented 4 years ago

USB-C charging is my hard requirement for a new laptop (because I can use Volta XL cables for magnetic breakaway support). This would be huge for me.

RiderExMachina commented 4 years ago

I'm curious, why do you prefer barrel connectors? Maybe you can give us a different opinion that'd open our minds?

Because all barrel connectors will 100% be guaranteed to charge your laptop whereas USB C has already had issues due to different specs within the standard (namely the Switch, RasPi4, and Apple devices not working without their official chargers)

kusuriya commented 4 years ago

I'm curious, why do you prefer barrel connectors? Maybe you can give us a different opinion that'd open our minds?

Because all barrel connectors will 100% be guaranteed to charge your laptop whereas USB C has already had issues due to different specs within the standard (namely the Switch, RasPi4, and Apple devices not working without their official chargers)

100% that's not even remotely true, I have plenty of barrel chargers that will sometimes charge due to issues in their, or the laptops manufacturing. Honestly I'd have to get more data but I'm pretty sure the failure rate for USB-C and barrel chargers is near the same if you compare like to like, so smart barrels against USB-PD and dumb against dumb. Most of the issues you note are issues in manufacturing where people didn't follow the spec correctly and Smart chargers wig out

Carreau commented 4 years ago

Note that European commission want to enforce a single charger type for most electronic devices: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/tech/eu-apple-single-phone-chargers/index.html

That might want to be something to keep an eye on.

22bsti commented 4 years ago

I agree USB-C even with the quirks is preferable to barrel plugs.

briggs1978 commented 4 years ago

One USB-C charging port on either side is an absolute requirement now for me to purchase a laptop.

neuromancer2049 commented 4 years ago

What do you think of the concept of "mirrored ports"? What you got on left side is exactly same ports on right side. Can charge left or right. Without being too "awkward" somehow.

neuromancer2049 commented 4 years ago

Why/User Benefit/User Problem

One cable to rule them all - barrell connectors are bulky

Description of the feature

Offer enough usb-c ports to charge the laptop and still have one free for data transfer.

But how much is needed ? Is 3 usb c too little ? Or is 4 a good number since they hardly take any space ?

tincho commented 3 years ago

hello! are currently (august 2021) available any System76 laptops that charge over USB-C port? Specifically the Lemur model? Thanks!

leviport commented 3 years ago

@tincho USB-C charging is listed in the Tech Specs section when it is supported: https://system76.com/laptops/lemur/

2021-08-11_09-06

jonocodes commented 2 years ago

Lets get this for the galago.

leviport commented 2 years ago

The galp6 does support USB-C charging. It appears it was left off the tech-specs by mistake, but it is mentioned in the technical documentation: https://tech-docs.system76.com/models/galp6/README.html

We will correct the tech-specs very soon.

LukeClancy commented 1 year ago

In my experience, I have a barrel plug connector on my gaze14 which failed, so I had to get it sent in. Now it is currently mid-failure again. USB-C is known to be relatively reliable, so I would like that solution in the future. Preferably not soldered onto a circuit board, so that it is easily replaceable.

Every time something like this happens, it majorly impacts my work due to around 2 weeks of turnover when it gets sent in. I would not get a computer without usb-c charging in the future. Simply because I know what I am getting (instead of the shoddy component I have now).